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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:04 pm

i need a lighter fly on my 2.7....... does anyone have a stock one lying round which i can get lightened,,,, and also does anyone know where in hertfordshire i could get this done
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:40 pm

Hi Karan

I can't help with the spare flywheel but I can give you some names/numbers for companies that may not be too far from you and are worth making enquiries with. I have no actual knowledge of them or their work, i just dug their details out of an old copy of ppc mag I had in my office.

Gosnays Engineeringm, Romford, Essex, tel 01708 740668 www.gosnays.co.uk

Maynard Ltd, Woodchester, Glouc - 01453 833185

CTM Performance Engineering - Ilford, Essex - 0208 5543534

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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:49 pm

Possibly completely useless but; I got mine lightened in a place in Warrington (have no idea where as si316 got it done) was Ԛ£20 or so a looks like a good job.

Could always post it! It would be cheaper on the way back!
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:18 pm

cheers for the help guys!!

much appreciated as always
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:38 pm

karan

i have a flywheel you can have dude.

i will drop it down next time we have a pint.
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:45 pm

jonb wrote:karan

i have a flywheel you can have dude.

i will drop it down next time we have a pint.
cheers mate..

we just having the one???? LOL
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:30 pm

There are driveability issues to take into consideration before you do this.

The throttle response does get better but its alot harder to drive the car smoothly especially at lower speeds.

You might also get more gearbox noise at idle and a worse idle.

Atleast you know before you do this.
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:33 pm

M5pilot wrote:There are driveability issues to take into consideration before you do this.

The throttle response does get better but its alot harder to drive the car smoothly especially at lower speeds.

You might also get more gearbox noise at idle and a worse idle.

Atleast you know before you do this.
no big deal.... i'll change it back if i dont like it, ive done gbox off before and its not too hard
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:50 pm

Karan wrote:
jonb wrote:karan

i have a flywheel you can have dude.

i will drop it down next time we have a pint.
cheers mate..

we just having the one???? LOL
ok. maybe just the 5.

give me a bell when you can dude.
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:53 pm

jonb wrote:
Karan wrote:
jonb wrote:karan

i have a flywheel you can have dude.

i will drop it down next time we have a pint.
cheers mate..

we just having the one???? LOL
ok. maybe just the 5.

give me a bell when you can dude.
will do mate... im at the dental hospital now so im really really busy!!!
i look forward to it

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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:11 pm

will do mate... im at the dental hospital now so im really really busy!!!
Getting false teeth already! your only young..... :eek: :eek: :eek:















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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:14 pm

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will do mate... im at the dental hospital now so im really really busy!!!
Getting false teeth already! your only young..... :eek: :eek: :eek:


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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:22 pm

jonb wrote:ok. maybe just the 15
:wink:
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:38 pm

Demlotcrew wrote:
jonb wrote:ok. maybe just the 15
:wink:
we honestly werent far off last time
hes a smallish fella but boy do they go down! 8O

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Post Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:54 pm

Gwynleym10 wrote:I got mine lightened in a place in Warrington (have no idea where as si316 got it done) was Ԛ£20 or so a looks like a good job.
Do you have their contact details mate ? I have a flywheel I'd like lightening and live near to Warrington.

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Post Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:56 pm

how much needs to be taken off an IS flywheel

and what would fitting cost?
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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:01 am

318-is wrote:how much needs to be taken off an IS flywheel

and what would fitting cost?
about 10 kg!

It's a dual mass wheel and weighs a ton! i had thought of getting mine lightened a bit too... i have a spare one sitting about doing nothing!

Fitting cost... garage will probably charge Ԛ£100 or so, only a guess! the gearbox needs to be taken out, and if it's the original clutch you might want to think of changing it for a Sachs unit, so much better than the original BMW one!
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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:13 am

this is turning out to be expensive lol

how much is a sachs unit?
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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:59 am

318-is wrote:this is turning out to be expensive lol

how much is a sachs unit?
about Ԛ£80
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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:27 pm

U need one of these babies :D

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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:34 pm

Gwynleym10 wrote:
I got mine lightened in a place in Warrington (have no idea where as si316 got it done) was Ԛ£20 or so a looks like a good job.


Do you have their contact details mate ? I have a flywheel I'd like lightening and live near to Warrington.

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P.M Si316 he has the details.
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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:20 pm

80 for sachs
50 for lightening
iv been qoted 65 for fittment roughly
20 for flywheel
not so bad, is it worth it tho
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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:07 pm

I would wait until you need to replace the clutch or at least until you need to take the gear box out.

Whilst it's out replace any leaky oil seals like the crank and input shaft seals.

I'm not to sure but i don't think you can lighten a dual mass fly wheel, can any one confirm this ??
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Post Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:15 pm

:?

i bloody well hope you can!

if not i can fit an m40 one right?
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Post Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:46 am

M42 have different flywheels i think, if you get one from a newer (i ithink) model it will be lighter from factory. Check out Brendan Percels website.
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Post Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:42 am

yeah i know they have dual mass ones, hence why i want to get it lightened :lol: someone mentioned that it cannot be though?

i also heard that m40 ones are a direct swap allegedly
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Post Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:20 pm

Sorry I didn't write that very clearly,

I think there are two types of flywheels for the m42, one lighter than the other.
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Post Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:26 pm

Oh I'm so wrong, it is an m40 flywheel :oops: :oops: :oops:

Quote from BP site
There is scope to lighten the flywheel to reduce spin up inertia in lowergears. I believe this a major contributor to the cars' relatively poor acceleration from standstill. You can buy expensive modded flywheels but I would really like to hear from someone who has managed to shave 1-2kgs off the stock one - any guinea pigs?

From analysing the BMW ETK, I have found out that '89 models were fitted with the M40 9.973kg flywheel but were changed to a 11.45kg (aircon) or 12.25kg (no aircon) from 1990! So there's about 2.5kg saving to be had at a fraction of the cost of a performance part ! BTW, M20 engines have a 8.5kg or 9.98kg flywheel but will not match the M42 starter motor teeth, nor pressure plate, nor gearbox input shaft...and, if you fitted a M20 pressure plate you would be ~0.5kg up again (M40/M42=1.26kg, M20=1.674kg).

Here's another tip - BMW have recognised a potential momentary power reduction after a gear change followed by full throttle - due to partial contraction of the air intake boot. A support ring, p/n 13 71 1 734 359 can be installed at the first pleat in the boot! This seems to be a US only part though...
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Post Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:32 pm

so its worth weighing the one im purchasing then lol