Worlds longest Resto, my C2 2.7 19/3/18 Vent guage action

Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:19 pm

It's too Red and we all know Cardinal is the biz red.

Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:21 pm

No cardinal is the poor relation to crimson.

Cardinal isn't even that red, its more orange brown.

Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:55 pm

I saw this in the flesh today, part of The problem is the fact it's still a bit grubby, it has a lot of in grained dirt which detracts from the colour, it's also rather shiny which always makes leather look crap, when the rest of the interior is back together and it's re coloured the red against black will look epic.

Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:01 pm

Royalratch wrote:You'll all think I'm just being a coont

yes !

Si that really looks awesome, it works really well with the black carpet ect, did it come with speaker covers parcel shelf ect ?

I sold this shelf with shagging blind red premiums ect, it would be perfect.. I will ask the chap who owns it if he wants to sell I know he hasn't used it

Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:14 pm

Steve you'll save me a job, BUT i was going to dye my blind/shelf black. If you could find out i'd be interested. I have a red shelf but non blind which i won't be using. I have pioneer 100W 5 1/4 speaker covers OE style to go in. It all needs to be seen in the flesh. As powelly said, needs TLC. Driver lower bolster foam. The tilt forward mech isn't working on the drivers seat and theres another bracket broken which means you can pull the top half of the seat to one side my a inch!

I'll say it again, in the fleash it doesn't look red

I don't know what shade it is, and i don't really care as i really like it.

They'll be more out cry when the scorpion centre box goes on with the RD manifold!

Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:19 pm

You gonna fit the heated shizzle to these?

Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:23 pm

I will chase up the shelf,

so long as the leather bolsters aren't split I don't see a problem with the mechs ? these seats are easy to rebuild just use a decent sport seat frame..

I have brand new set of NLA BMW lower bolster/ base foam kit if it's any good ?

Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:24 pm

in time, loom is in but i think its something i can wait and get done over a winter. Its a bit pointless bar those cold spring morings if i use it then i suppose but we want the switches to work and not be for show like a fake A/C switch!

Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:00 am

The black paint with crimson red is simply stunning,no question.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:11 am

What an epic thread, top work! And the red leather = YES!!!!

Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:44 am

Nice Si, very nice

Blind and speakers next then?

Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:20 am

bss325i wrote:No cardinal is the poor relation to crimson.

Cardinal isn't even that red, its more orange brown.

Aargghh - you're just being contrary for the sake of it! You know Cardinal is the biz you've said so many times!

Cardinal is deep darker blood red and such is classier and rarer lookig. Crimson almost looks like a retrim as it's so loud.

Plus you know red is the number 1 chave retrim choice out there...

cardinal is more muted, just more sophisticated - and dare I say rarer...

Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:35 am

Royalratch wrote:
bss325i wrote:No cardinal is the poor relation to crimson.

Cardinal isn't even that red, its more orange brown.
Aargghh - you're just being contrary for the sake of it! You know Cardinal is the biz you've said so many times!

Cardinal is deep darker blood red and such is classier and rarer lookig. Crimson almost looks like a retrim as it's so loud.

Plus you know red is the number 1 chave retrim choice out there...

cardinal is more muted, just more sophisticated - and dare I say rarer...

Thats a retrim. The seat backs are cardinal, the seats look more crimson ! Most 20+ year old interiors look quite different to how they were new. Years of harsh sunlight, recolouring, feeding. treating, cleaning have taken there toll

I have a set of brand new OE BMW seat covers for M3 sport seats and they look SO unlike any E30 seat I have seen in years .

Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:23 pm

Yeh - they;re all matt and soft when new. Nothing like the harsh shiny vinyl your average E30 leaverz.

But you know what I mean - Cardinal is the boss red.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:45 pm

Much more understated and subtle - less PBMW.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:39 pm

Royalratch wrote:Much more understated and subtle - less PBMW.

PBMW !

Ratch, this is a family forum, keep it clean.

Next thing Bootyman will be along to advise on piping options and how to fit 6 TVs to each seat !

PS Sorry Ratch, that/ cardinal just looks like crimson that has sat in the sun for too long.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:45 pm

I really need to get my eyes tested as they all look the same shad to me.

The red works so well with Si's car it is a no brainer to fit it on a perminate basis.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:00 pm

I've seen Cardinal up close, MINT Cardinal and it is a far superior shade of red than the OTT Dracula's bathroom that is Crimson.

Pete - If Cardinal had sat in the sun it would go less saturated and lighter - not darker and deeper.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:11 pm

I like black on red.. But for some reason I am not convinced in your 'Pina Si.. No ticking my f**k me that's awesome box. I think black on black is more suited to this chariot.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:05 pm

Gotta love the different opinions, seeing as we openly invite them on this thread. Its soooooooooooooooo staying in, so with a very sad baited breath i guess the black will go up forsale. I've been storing it for 4 years for this car.

opps. The wife is saying WTF - why keep seats for this time and then buy some different ones to go in. Which i have to agree with really. Gotta gets this wagon on the road asap!

If anyone knows of the where abouts of my old sport F942 MGD in Lachs, i have its factory leathers here!! should go back to it really.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:18 pm

One of the nicest black 2 door sports 2 door leather out there. Should command a good price

Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:06 pm

Royalratch wrote:Aargghh - you're just being contrary for the sake of it! You know Cardinal is the biz you've said so many times!

Nope. I'm telling it how it is. I have said cardinal is nice but! i have also said crimson is better. And it is!

Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:22 pm

None of you know what you're on about.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:30 pm

Seats/doorcards look great,Simon,but I'm not convinced about the carpet...

This has taken time and a huge hunk of folding,needs to be just what you want.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:34 pm

Royalratch wrote:None of you know what you're on about.

Sorry Ratch but thats rich coming from some one who had their boot and bonnet badges the wrong way round.

You talking to the E30 masters here

Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:43 pm

Royalratch wrote:None of you know what you're on about.

Well i'm afraid thats where you are wrong.

Malco to me the carpet makes it just right, if it was red it would be too much to my taste. I think the shelf dyed black would work for it also, but i'm coming round to red poss like Topless posted. So only the middle area as such is red top and bottom black.

I'm looking at it now thinking job done people. Its about as good as i'll ever get it. I can't spend any more time or effort that i already have to get this far. I can honestly sit back and say its been a 100% effort. I've f**ked stuff before in ones life but its not this. Bar buying a B6 or S what else can i get for it? I'm VERY indecisive (sp) hence all the what do you think threads, but i like to know what everyone thinks. Sometimes i don't like what i read but if i ask i have to take it. The great thing is we don't all agree, and when its done people will say "si should painted it blue" or "get those council springs off"

Being me would of been a nightmare if i bought a new car or had the money. Deciding on colours especially. Plus Black works with nearly everything? black, white, silver, cream, red, brown hell even the right blue would be ok

I was looking at the interior and the car as a whole yesterday thinking we are there and the engine build is sooooooooo close to coming together its there.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:51 pm

MOT time soon.

Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:03 pm

Simon, my neighbour has a skip coming tomorrow, give Barry them 60mm springs and scorpion zaust

Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:03 pm

I'm not a fan of the red but if it's what does it for you Simon then get it in there!

bss325i wrote: You talking to the E30 masters here

I tend to agree, repeating my comments the other night of 'geeks' though might be a little unfair

Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:28 pm

winx wrote:I'm not a fan of the red but if it's what does it for you Simon then get it in there!

bss325i wrote: You talking to the E30 masters here
I tend to agree, repeating my comments the other night of 'geeks' though might be a little unfair

You were impressed with the talk of black air con valve caps and R12 labels then?!

Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:31 pm

Has the E30 masters turned up yet

Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:39 pm

Is that supposed to be an attempt at humor?

Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:45 pm

Simon13 wrote:
Royalratch wrote:None of you know what you're on about.

I'm looking at it now thinking job done people. Its about as good as i'll ever get it.

how can you improve it anymore without adding anything else ? you can't Si it don't get much better

epic chariot this, what colour warpaint is it getting.. gold or silver?

Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:02 pm

silver, its a lesson in taste!

Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:09 pm

Gold on black is classy and so 80's ..but me thinks it will be silly with red letherzz ! silver FTW

let me know when you are parting with the Black Si, it will be good in the triple 3