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Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:36 pm

jonb wrote:
Demlotcrew wrote:Im with Sal its Heart GA!

Andrew
i will be back later with proof.
OY !!!! It is Heart GA! 100% lol
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:39 pm

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here you go. pedantic boy. :)

this is an original advert.
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:54 pm

No luck tracking those Alpina subframe bushs down, Munich Legends say they have been NLA for a few years now and they fit powerflex bushs instead now. The gimp at Sytners said that they wernt in the Alpina parts catalogue(sp?), more like he couldn't be arsed to look ! :x Normally Sytners are very helpfull, but not this time. :(

Genuine BMW bushs are going on tomorrow.
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:19 pm

jonb wrote:Image

here you go. pedantic boy. :)

this is an original advert.
Spikey Hair Boy - thats just a journalist putting down what he thinks!!
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 6:24 pm

salman. wrong again...... :roll:

nope. its an origonal advert for hartge. in a magazine from before you were born, around 1987.
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:48 pm

Andy335Touring wrote:No luck tracking those Alpina subframe bushs down, Munich Legends say they have been NLA for a few years now and they fit powerflex bushs instead now. The gimp at Sytners said that they wernt in the Alpina parts catalogue(sp?), more like he couldn't be arsed to look ! :x Normally Sytners are very helpfull, but not this time. :(

Genuine BMW bushs are going on tomorrow.
Dude why not use Z3 m coupe ones? winkeye

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Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:51 pm

:lol: @ jonB :mad:
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:53 pm

Demlotcrew wrote:
Andy335Touring wrote:No luck tracking those Alpina subframe bushs down, Munich Legends say they have been NLA for a few years now and they fit powerflex bushs instead now. The gimp at Sytners said that they wernt in the Alpina parts catalogue(sp?), more like he couldn't be arsed to look ! :x Normally Sytners are very helpfull, but not this time. :(

Genuine BMW bushs are going on tomorrow.
Dude why not use Z3 m coupe ones? winkeye

Andrew
Is that what you are using mate ?

[edit] Are they stiffer ?
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:55 pm

Oy Jon B !!!! You Bristol guys never could pronounce LOL.........Even Mr H.Hartge calls it HEART GA !!! But you believe what you read !!!!

:D :wink:
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:14 pm

Demlotcrew wrote:
Andy335Touring wrote:No luck tracking those Alpina subframe bushs down, Munich Legends say they have been NLA for a few years now and they fit powerflex bushs instead now. The gimp at Sytners said that they wernt in the Alpina parts catalogue(sp?), more like he couldn't be arsed to look ! :x Normally Sytners are very helpfull, but not this time. :(

Genuine BMW bushs are going on tomorrow.
Dude why not use Z3 m coupe ones? winkeye

Andrew
They don't fit according to this site, here is a quote and the link

" I have discovered that the M Coupe subframe bushings will NOT fit the E30 chassis. They are too short. "

http://e30m3performance.com/now_showing ... /index.htm

This site was linked to from Gustaves site

http://e30m3performance.com/installs/in ... b/jl-2.htm
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:26 pm

No dude i was going to, but now i dont think i will, im sure i read some of the M3 guys where ussing them (but they did have the Mcoupe subframe along with the trailing arms and halfshafts (with E28 diff flanges) )

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Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:37 pm

HartgeH27 wrote:Oy Jon B !!!! You Bristol guys never could pronounce LOL.........Even Mr H.Hartge calls it HEART GA !!! But you believe what you read !!!!

:D :wink:
im sticking to it. :)
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:43 pm

'Heart-guh'

jon u sarccy git :wink:
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Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:09 pm

jonb wrote:Image

here you go. pedantic boy. :)

this is an original advert.
thats not what u said tho jon

u put its pronounced "hart-gee"

and a double e will make the g sound different to a single one :P :P :P
eg a soft or a hard sound


hart ge
or
hart ga

both sound will sound very similar.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:59 pm

It's pronounced HART-GER. If it was pronounced Hart-gee it would have an umlaut (double dots) above the e or would be written Hartgae. The 'e' in Hartge is pronounced the same as 'her' or 'fur'.
You need to speak German to really get to grips with the weird pronounciation. For example, in "Vorsprung Durch Technik", Durch is pronounced Doichh with a real phlegmmy hiss to the 'chh' bit.

Anyway, part number for the axle bush is 33 30 108, and the Alpina diff mount bush is 33 30 109. Knowing Alpina, probably no longer available. What's wrong with a nice new standard BMW axle bush anyway??

Hartge stuff was much better than Alpina. H27's do have the steel diesel crank and the H27SP used a special inlet manifold with one choke per cylinder. Very proper. 220 bhp. H26 was a nicer car than the C2 2.7 imho.
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