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The red piping was original? Or 'dealer' fit'?
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When the car was ordered as an 325SE it would have come with comfort seats, these were upgraded to sports seats, the original cloth was antrazit.Royalratch wrote:The red piping was original? Or 'dealer' fit'?
The new owner specified the trim to be black leather with red piping on the seats, headrests and door cards, the rear bench was to be reformed into the shape of an M3 bench.
Sytners Nottingham despatched the car when it arrived from Germany to a local trimmers they used for such a purpose, i have spoken to this chap and he even remembers the car !!!!!
The trimmer did his bit and the car then returned to Sytners, the interior is unique and the trimmer has never done another rear bench conversion such as this, its a one off as is the paint.
You know of any 4 doors in Misano Red, the dealer principal at Sytner Nottingham was the partner of the woman who bought this car and he has since confirmed to me that he had to pull a few strings, cash in some favours at HQ in Germany to get the car painted this colour. The decision had to go before senior management to be approved, as you know Misano Red is an M3 colour only and normally cannot be specified for anything else.
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The_Diddler wrote:You know of any 4 doors in Misano Red, the dealer principal at Sytner Nottingham was the partner of the woman who bought this car and he has since confirmed to me that he had to pull a few strings, cash in some favours at HQ in Germany to get the car painted this colour. The decision had to go before senior management to be approved, as you know Misano Red is an M3 colour only and normally cannot be specified for anything else.
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Great stuff on the colour.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
I think it would spoil the whole concept of the car. Admitly the conversion is too in some respects but I think it's so perfectly retro.Royalratch wrote:Great stuff on the colour.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
BTW Paul smashing job mate!
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100% agreed. With a story like that attached, it would be a crime to move away from what the original order was.Felix79 wrote:I think it would spoil the whole concept of the car. Admitly the conversion is too in some respects but I think it's so perfectly retro.Royalratch wrote:Great stuff on the colour.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
BTW Paul smashing job mate!
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Yes me to. I think it needs to stay M20 and not the M52 that going in it.B7 wrote:100% agreed. With a story like that attached, it would be a crime to move away from what the original order was.Felix79 wrote:I think it would spoil the whole concept of the car. Admitly the conversion is too in some respects but I think it's so perfectly retro.Royalratch wrote:Great stuff on the colour.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
BTW Paul smashing job mate!
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The thing is it can always go back to M20 but Paul will enjoy it more with the M52 in it and if he doesn't pop the bonnet nobody will know anyhow, plus a standard M20B25 is nothing special but the colour and interior of this car are so to my mind he's preserving the unique parts whilst improving it in area's where he can.
Just my opinion of course
Just my opinion of course
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With a car done this standard, that bonnet will be open alot, especially at shows.
Originality is paramount to rarity but thats just my opinion.
Originality is paramount to rarity but thats just my opinion.
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A good TD crank based 2.7 would be a good compromise in this case i reckon.bss325i wrote:With a car done this standard, that bonnet will be open alot, especially at shows.
Originality is paramount to rarity but thats just my opinion.
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Whilst i appreciate your views about originality in respect of the M20, i am looking forward to enjoying the M52 2.8
Plus i would need to get all the brackets i had removed re-fitted, not an option just yet.
Thanks for all the kind comments

Plus i would need to get all the brackets i had removed re-fitted, not an option just yet.
Thanks for all the kind comments
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at Least it's getting the Iron block treatment
, even so that's a waste this extra-door turd won't see Tarmac
do you even need an engine in it Paul ?
do you even need an engine in it Paul ?
You'll be to scared to get it dirty or chip the paint to enjoy the performance gains of the M52! 
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With the amount of digging Paul has done on this he could write a book, the interior is done to BMW standards, its nothing like your average bruved up seat retrim with brittle plastic pipings and half arsed leather, its a top class job and deserves to remain 
I agree on the interior but not on the M52. Will be awesome either way but i just feel it needs to retain the M20.
bss325i wrote:I agree on the interior but not on the M52. Will be awesome either way but i just feel it needs to retain the M20.
Agree with Barry on this, but i can fully inderstand why Paul is going down the M52 route. As has been said, at lesat the main unique selling points will remain.
Paul, do you reckon that trimmer would be able to make another rear bench in that style? Just a consideration with the demand for M3 rear benches at the moment and the lack of availability.
Not for my sport.DanThe wrote:make him an offer then, you know you want onebss325i wrote:I agree on the interior but not on the M52. Will be awesome either way but i just feel it needs to retain the M20.
There is another engine i'm trying to get my hands on though for a future E30 project.
Its not 24V though!
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i think we shouldn't clog this thread up with sh!te about who likes his interior or who likes the M52 going in or not. Its his car his call and lets just enjoy it taking shape!
Paul get your thumb out
Paul get your thumb out
And you to deviant are never guilty of clogging up threads? 
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Once finished and on Tarmac, it'll show your south african turds its arsee30topless wrote:at Least it's getting the Iron block treatment, even so that's a waste this extra-door turd won't see Tarmac
do you even need an engine in it Paul ?
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No worries guys, comment away, tis the internet after all.
At least you havent mentioned the amount of doors for a while......

Edit: i think i mentioned the amount of doors didnt i. Damn........
At least you havent mentioned the amount of doors for a while......
Edit: i think i mentioned the amount of doors didnt i. Damn........
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now now diddly lets not start a M52 v M30 boat/24 valve anchor thingy threadThe_Diddler wrote:Once finished and on Tarmac, it'll show your south african turds its arsee30topless wrote:at Least it's getting the Iron block treatment, even so that's a waste this extra-door turd won't see Tarmac
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you will get dusted fella, I know you won't do over 30mph due to stone chips ect,
Jeez ratch..... Dealer fit and by a reputable and respected one at that so I reckon part of the history of what is an original car.... Let him get on with it. Would you put two extra doors into one of the original 3 two door tourings, just because that's how a touring should be?Royalratch wrote:Great stuff on the colour.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
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Or steels on an iSrobbo86 wrote:Jeez ratch..... Dealer fit and by a reputable and respected one at that so I reckon part of the history of what is an original car.... Let him get on with it. Would you put two extra doors into one of the original 3 two door tourings, just because that's how a touring should be?Royalratch wrote:Great stuff on the colour.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
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Lads.DanThe wrote:Or steels on an iSrobbo86 wrote:Jeez ratch..... Dealer fit and by a reputable and respected one at that so I reckon part of the history of what is an original car.... Let him get on with it. Would you put two extra doors into one of the original 3 two door tourings, just because that's how a touring should be?Royalratch wrote:Great stuff on the colour.
i would still be going back to something more normal on the interior.
If the original owner ordered a massive plastic turd to be attached as a hood ornament, should that stay? Or if it had some other garish 'dealer fit' option? For me, dealer fit doesn't count. If it wasn't in BMWs options list, parts catalogue or at least from an approved Tuner or other period BMW model then it's molestation of the first degree - the fact that a Dealer Principal ordered the pimping means zilch.
It's because I love the car that I want to see the original owners taste 'corrected' and the car made into the example of awesomeness (spell check recognised this lol) it should always have had the chance to be.
We are not spamming, OPs love it when people get excited on their threads and we're ON TOPIC.
Diddler - I'm not too bothered as interiors are easily changeable, which I know you will one day sort out when something special enough surfaces.
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Come on Rachid, you're not bullet proof in the non-OEM area yourself, cough, clears 


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That was yeeeeeears ago - they now sport fresh Orange goodness.
Do as I SAY not as I once DID.
You doth protest too much bro, for I know the dark hand of molestation hath disturbed your chariot in many ways.
Besides, clears are hardly on the same level as Red piping against Black leathers!
Do as I SAY not as I once DID.
You doth protest too much bro, for I know the dark hand of molestation hath disturbed your chariot in many ways.
Besides, clears are hardly on the same level as Red piping against Black leathers!
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Ah, give over, it's his car. If he likes the interior then so be it.
I've seen much worse things on E30s in my time.
Excellent thread by the way Diddler. I'm loving the attention to detail and the no expense spared attitude. I'm sure nearly every E30 owner would love to be in a position to take something like this on.
I've seen much worse things on E30s in my time.
Excellent thread by the way Diddler. I'm loving the attention to detail and the no expense spared attitude. I'm sure nearly every E30 owner would love to be in a position to take something like this on.
That inerior looks superb. It's garish and OTT, but that's what the late eighties were all about. It's also how the car was when the first owner took it for it's first drive with number plates on.
Not sure about the M52 though.
Not sure about the M52 though.
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your right, having clears is far worse than Red piping,Royalratch wrote: Besides, clears are hardly on the same level as Red piping against Black leathers!
Diddlers choice at the end of the day but i also would have reservations about not having the original M20 in this car,purely because of its "specialness"Not sure about the M52 though.
Really nice car,with what looks to be a very comprehensive background history.
Its arguably more special than a sport despite the excess doors in my opinion, purely for its uniqueness.


