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Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:21 am

this will work on am m50 but will this be for lhd cars so it'll be shorter?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0593204680
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:17 pm

ok these are only available in lhd so too short for us lot of rhd specialists.

i have now placed an order with these guys. this might help a few on the way to a quicker rack.


fook that windmilling carry oin 8O

Pipe 1 ”“ High pressure - 1 metre of steel braid nylon hose, M16 banjo connector at one end (rack end) , M14 banjo connector at the other end (pump end) 90 degree offset on the banjos.

Pipe 2 ”“ Low pressure (return hose) ”“ 1 x M14 banjo into 200mm of 3/8”a rubber hose, then stepped up to a”a hose for 1 metre.

The place I got my pipes made up are in Doncaster and it cost me £60 for them, but they will take a few days to do them and post. This is their number 01302 746 969 and ask for Paul. They can take paypal.

Can't find their email address now

Should get you on the right road mate.

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and cheers to your good self Lee [beemerlad] :D
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:13 am

Thanks for that, very useful. I removed my rack to install an e36 one last weekend, I've tried bending the existing pipes and while I might just manage the easy one (which only needs a single bend in it) I can't see how I'm going to completely unbend and rebend the other one. For £60 I might save myself alot of grief and have a set made up.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:55 am

Do you think we could do a zone group buy with them? I'm definitely up for buying a set
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:58 am

at £60 it's a fair price i think.

don't want to scare the bloke off winkeye
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:29 pm

i'd of thought there would be good demand for this again, e36 racks are only £25 from the scrappy!
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£20 for one up here :D
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:25 pm

magpie wrote:at £60 it's a fair price i think.

don't want to scare the bloke off winkeye
Sorry, didn't mean to get it cheaper, just get him to make a few sets up at a time :) I'm happy to pay £60
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here is his email addy


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Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:04 pm

Thanks Magpie :) I'll send an email now

Theres no reason why these won't fit an M30 engined e30 is there? Should all be the same
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:36 pm

Ive been trying to get some of these made up for a while

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Been let down big style by the first company that even managed to lose the above pipe which was my pattern :evil:
I now need to make another before I can go any further :-x
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:01 pm

Bristol_Jer wrote:Thanks Magpie :) I'll send an email now

Theres no reason why these won't fit an M30 engined e30 is there? Should all be the same
these measurement details ar for m50 only i think?
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:17 pm

Ok no worries, I'll measure mine up and email him
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:49 pm

if a group buy was on the cards would it not be an idea to have them made so they look totally factory?
2.8 development thread http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=170822

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HairyScreech wrote:if a group buy was on the cards would it not be an idea to have them made so they look totally factory?
Like the one I posted a pic of above?

Im on it already 8)
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ok, thought that might be the case. :o:

ill go back to my hole.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:04 pm

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I did my z3 conversion with hoses made by a company called hosemaker for £40 odd quid. Wasn't too much hassle to measure up, just gotta mess about with the threads when designing em, as lots of pipework is imperial. The two important ones on the rack are an M16 and M14, both of which have a pitch of 1.5. I even cut the cost of mine by not using Banjo's on the rack, just used a 90. But make sure you have space around your engine (I dont know what the sump of a 4 banger is like)
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:16 pm

got my pipes today,

are these right :?

the banjo's are at a 90 offset to each other on the silver one so is it just a case of cable tying it up where i can to keep it tidy ?

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hope these bloody work...
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:54 pm

Ive just re-read your other post and noticed the fittings seem to be wrong. Ive been messing a bit this week with pipes/racks and this is what ive found

E36 rack inlet= 14mm
E36 rack outlet= 16mm

M52 PAS pump outlet= 16mm
M50 PAS pump outlet= 14mm

Its possible Lee has fitted his pressure pipe the wrong way round which is why he hasnt noticed a problem, but with an M50 pump you wont be able to fit it up properly
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:57 pm

they look identical to mine mate.

Because I have my E36 rack mounted in the forwards slots I was able to feed both pipes behind the rack. The braided hose didn't need clamping to anything as it is spot on length.

You can just see the braided pipe in this pic and the route I have sent it. Click on the pics for a bigger view

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The rubber hose which goes from the rack to the reservoir will need cutting to length once you have it routed and are satisfied it isn't snagging on anything. The lenght of hose is long enough to fit an E30 reservois in the standard position, so needs trimming if the res is mounted on the nearside engine mount.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:58 pm

magpie wrote:
Bristol_Jer wrote:Thanks Magpie :) I'll send an email now

Theres no reason why these won't fit an M30 engined e30 is there? Should all be the same
these measurement details ar for m50 only i think?
Yes M50 measurements only, this was the one I tipped you off about IIRC Mick! How's it going with the project? 8)
How do you pronounce 'either'? I say 'either', but some say 'either'. Either is correct.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:59 pm

Mick, as you are using M50 PAS pump, one of the banjo ends will be 14mm and the other 16m, so the braided hose will only fit one way, where as on mine they are 16mm each end.
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E30BeemerLad wrote:Mick, as you are using M50 PAS pump, one of the banjo ends will be 14mm and the other 16m, so the braided hose will only fit one way, where as on mine they are 16mm each end.
Cheers Lee, Big sigh of relief, tfft .

still gather parts Duke, very nearly there now.

gonna get the e36 rack early next week and plop that on first then onto the main course! :D
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:10 pm

You need a pipe with 2 14mm banjo's Mick.

Pipe you are replacing is number 5
Check it out -

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E36/C ... oil_pipes/
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magpie wrote:
E30BeemerLad wrote:Mick, as you are using M50 PAS pump, one of the banjo ends will be 14mm and the other 16m, so the braided hose will only fit one way, where as on mine they are 16mm each end.
Cheers Lee, Big sigh of relief, tfft .

still gather parts Duke, very nearly there now.

gonna get the e36 rack early next week and plop that on first then onto the main course! :D
Sounds good!
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:13 pm

Also, as I said on the previous page the return pipe is a 16mm banjo, as stated in the ETK link above.
Seems somebody has there measurments wrong or their pipes on backwards!
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:19 pm

F U CK, If I have got those measurements wrong Mick and the pipes need replacing/ you get charged for any modifications, let me know and I'll sort you out as that is bad if I have given wrong measurements.

I'm sure I had copied & pasted from my original email when I ordered them, but changed the details just to suit your M50 PAS pump :o: :o: :o:
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:29 pm

just checked my pump and the bottom hollow bolt is a 16mm with the rack end being a 14mm i reckon i'm ok :D
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:32 pm

would be so amazing of you could buy an off the shelf kit for the m20 and m5x
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is the other pipe [black one]

part 8 then?

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E36/C ... oil_pipes/
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:59 pm

rossmc88 wrote:would be so amazing of you could buy an off the shelf kit for the m20 and m5x
Agreed.

I have a E36 rack and the only thing stopping me fit it is the pipes, if someone just did a "kit" with both pipes to fit and E36 rack to an E30 with M20 engine for £60 like some have paid I'd order it and slap it on.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:00 pm

just to confuse everyone further i'm pretty sure my m52 pump outlet is 14mm. it was from an early n-plate car though which may explain it.
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