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Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:07 pm

turk wrote:id love to see some pix of exhaust clearance too... pix pix pix :mad:
what exhaust clearance :clin:
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And I thought fitting a B32 dual sump is a lot of work :mad:
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:17 pm

Damn that looks good in there. :)

Seems there's also nicely space for radiator at stock location?
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:04 am

Jonsku wrote:Damn that looks good in there. :)

Seems there's also nicely space for radiator at stock location?
Its still tight enough though considering its a cylinder shorter than what you normally have problems with!
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Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:23 pm

almost finished the new crossmember, here's a couple of pics......

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That looks like some top end fab work right there mate. 8)
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That looks very robust :D
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:29 pm

made up the engine mounts today, i made them out of some 10mm plate i had left, with some 5mm gusset bracing...they're very strong !

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Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:50 pm

Hi,

Glenn- I see you have some E36 M3 Parts.

Do you have by chance a E36 M3 3.0 LTR Crank
in good condition please ?

I really wanted to borrow one to check something.

Seems I am going to have to buy one to find out.

Please let me know if you have one or know of
one.

Regards,

The Gorilla.
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glenn wrote:made up the engine mounts today, i made them out of some 10mm plate i had left, with some 5mm gusset bracing...they're very strong !

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I guess with 500+ bhp excess weight is not your concern, lool!
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:41 pm

GermanGorilla wrote:Hi,

Glenn- I see you have some E36 M3 Parts.

Do you have by chance a E36 M3 3.0 LTR Crank
in good condition please ?

I really wanted to borrow one to check something.
hello danny,
i dont sorry, i only break evo's :(
if i had one you would be welcome to borrow it.
i do have a complete evo engine and 6speed box here though.
UweM3 wrote:I guess with 500+ bhp excess weight is not your concern, lool!
hello uwe,
yes, a few kilo's arn't going to be an issue for me, lol :D
the ecu is in germany, he said he'll be waving his magic wand on it over christmas :D
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Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:29 pm

HI,

Glenn- many thanks, but I need a 3.0ltr E36 M3 one.

Your project is coming on well, are you going
to set the ECU in 'Sport Mode' or retain the
'Push here for 100 BHP Top Up'' Button ?

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Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:36 pm

You could hold the Severn Bridge up with those engine mounts!! :D
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GermanGorilla wrote:
Your project is coming on well, are you going
to set the ECU in 'Sport Mode' or retain the
'Push here for 100 BHP Top Up'' Button ?
hello dan,
it will be in P500 mode all the time :twisted:

it will also come back with a lead/connector, so i can read the ecu on my laptop
suchy wrote:You could hold the Severn Bridge up with those engine mounts!!
lol !! chris
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Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:09 pm

The steering rack location appears to have been moved forward quite a bit. How do you plan to make up for that?

Best of luck to you!
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Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:16 pm

it's around 100 mm.
i'll get a new column to rack coupler made up
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Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:21 pm

what about the steering angle? will moving the rack forward effect it? nice work btw.
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baptie0 wrote:what about the steering angle? will moving the rack forward effect it? nice work btw.
i dont think so, maybe at full or almost full lock, but for normal everyday use
i dont think there'll be any issues. if i find any problems i'll take another look at it.

i thought for a few days, i'd better bolt it all together to check for clearances etc. so, bolted the gearbox up to the engine, so that the engine could sit at its 'finished' angle, and then checked i could shut the bonnet, and check ground clearance.


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recognize these ?........

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i went down to cornwall last week to pick up some stuff of the old car.
i bought back the interior, the gp-n shocks and springs, my nardi blackline wheel, and these rear quater panels. i thought i'd grab the panels to repair some rust under the back bumper
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So is the old car getting put back on the road then?

Looks tight in there. :eek:
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Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:06 pm

that looks a tight fit Glenn, :eek:

epic thread btw, :D
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Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:33 pm

Dezzy wrote:So is the old car getting put back on the road then?

Looks tight in there. :eek:
he's re-shelling the car.
he told me he's bought a dtm new ex-stock shell from germany, and is picking it up this month.


e30topless wrote:that looks a tight fit Glenn
you're telling me steve !!
i knew it was going to be tight, thats why i felt the need to bolt it all together and back in the car to check.
i bought back the gp-n shocks and springs, but after bolting it back together, i'm not sure if i could afford to go much lower than it is now, so i may have to re-sell the shocks and springs.
i'm going to remove the engine and gearbox again, so i can properly sort the clutch release bearing, bolt it all back in, then change the shocks and springs and then have a look what clearance i've got under the car.
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how much room is there for a rad in front of the engine then? doesnt look like theres that much room
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Phew, glad you managed to grab the bits back you wanted! Had visions of toasted interior and suspension!! Rear quarters were a bonus!!
As Blitz mentioned also, rad anywhere?? :D
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glenn wrote:
Dezzy wrote:So is the old car getting put back on the road then?

Looks tight in there. :eek:
he's re-shelling the car.
he told me he's bought a dtm new ex-stock shell from germany, and is picking it up this month.

that spec shell will be about 10k if not more
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Kos wrote:
that spec shell will be about 10k if not more
yes kos, i think it was about £8.5k, without doors, wings, bumpers, glass etc
suchy wrote:As Blitz mentioned also, rad anywhere??
yes chris, i left enough room for a rad in there when i made the engine mounts
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Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:50 am

Intriguing thread, first post as well, i was lookign to put in aV10 into an E36, E30 M3 was just too expensive as a base car for me, plus almost a shame being a classic ;)

Re the management, i was previously put off but the only proven engine management solution being the pectel/cosworth solution, and its £10k +VAT price tag, i see you are planning on keeping the std management, who has got that working if you wouldnt mind me asking.

thanks

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foz01 wrote:, i see you are planning on keeping the std management, who has got that working if you wouldnt mind me asking
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Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:01 pm

Phenomenal thread! Keep it up Glenn! :cool:
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Any updates on this Glen?
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bmw-mad wrote:Any updates on this Glen?
well.......
my welder packed up, and while that was being repaired, 'er indoors has had
me doing a few jobs around the house.
i've also been doing a s50b32 swap for someone, which i've pretty much finished and so i'll be delivering it back to him this weekend.
also, we're being made to do longer hours at work at the moment, so,
with doing more hours at work,
doing an s50 swap for someone,
and doing some diy,
i'm struggling to get some time on it at the moment.
what i am doing though at the moment is,
preparing the car to go for painting, while its at the bodyshop i'll be able to get the other things finished
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Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:33 pm

Hi,
Epic thread!!!
Something that should be done long time ago - and done it the right way! Do you mind me asking the same question as the previous opponent,

the only proven engine management solution being the pectel/cosworth solution, and its £10k +VAT price tag, i see you are planning on keeping the std management, who has got that working if you wouldnt mind me asking.

any contacts on that, email? phone? also did you ever thought about the new x5m x6m v8 bi-turbo swap??? I believe with your extraordinary abilities it could be done in future?! That`s what I`m looking to do and so - collecting the info on that! I see only one major problem - ems!!! That`s what worries me most. Looking forward that this thing will hit the road asap, interested what`s going to feel while driving this beast! Looking forward that you`ll be able to share your wizard info with me. Thanks for doing this and bringing the positive atmosphere to our minds!
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