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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:30 pm

The engine is in but it won't start!
When ignition is turned on I can't hear the fuel pump engaging but I have wired the green-purple wires up on c101
The engine turns over freely but will not spark!
Please help
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:36 pm

Any1 ??
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:01 pm

Take us back to basics dude

What car is it going in, was it an injection car originally or a carb?

I'm afraid I'm as much use with wiring as tits on a fish, but I'll help where I can

So you've got no spark or fuel?
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:18 pm

The car is originaly a 320i motron 1.3
When ignition is turned on the fuel pump does not prime, I have had the back bench out and jumped 2 wires to the pump and it works and delivers fuel. But won't with the ignition!
The engine will turn over freely but nothing!
I took a coil pack out and turned over but no spark!
Everything is wired up as per brianmoores chart
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:36 pm

Does it need EWS? The pump should prime if your wiring is correct
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:40 pm

What year is the engine/ecu?
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:42 pm

The engine is from a 1992 e34, it is maroon labeled 413 ecu, non ews as far as I'm aware
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:50 pm

have you got the ecu power wire connected to the battery?
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:56 pm

There are 2 that come from the loom with loop connectors on. 1 is a brown so I put it to earth, the other has 4 wires that come from the ecu connector, I have earthed that also
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:01 pm

The loom needs power and earth
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:04 pm

yep, both of those should be earth. and you should have 3 power wires, a main power, power to the fuse box and power to the ecu. from memory the ecu power is red and joins about 5 other wires in the engine loom with a yellow cap.
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:22 pm

Yes, the group of 4 are from memory brown, brown-yellow ect... When these were put to live on battery the ignition lights come on with ignition in off position but the abs ect clicks like the ignition is being turned on, when those wires are put to earth and igniton is turned on the abs does not click!
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:35 pm

e30-dk wrote:Yes, the group of 4 are from memory brown, brown-yellow ect... When these were put to live on battery the ignition lights come on with ignition in off position but the abs ect clicks like the ignition is being turned on, when those wires are put to earth and igniton is turned on the abs does not click!
yes, the group of brown or black wires are earth. but you should also have a RED wire coming out of your engine loom, this joins up inside the engine loom with 4 or 5 other RED wires covered with a yellow cap. have you got this connected to the battery?
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:53 pm

Not as far as I know mate, I know the group your on about tho! On the e34 loom there is 3 relays on a sort of rail and the 4th has 1 thick red wire on a sort of block, I have fed that through the bulkhead with the said relays and zip tied it up out of the way.
Please don't tell me THAT goes to the battery or I will boot myself!! LOL
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:00 pm

yep, that goes to the battery :D it might be bolted to a black plastic clip with a 10mm bolt, you really want the 3 relays up in the engine bay anyway. they clip into the 4 pot wiring cover and look right at home :D
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:11 pm

Red = Battery. Permanent Live
Brown or Brown/Orange = Earth
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:16 pm

Oh my fekkin god!! Haha. Yes its on the very block you described but I could not see a way off connecting it to the battery so I put it out of the way! The relays have been extended so that they sit under my wheel along with the ecu.
So I take it when I connect that the fuel pump will prime and I will have spark to the coils?
There is 3 wires going to each coil and I checked them with an electrical tester and 1 had power, I take it the other ones are earth and ecu power to coils?
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:33 pm

e30-dk wrote:So I take it when I connect that the fuel pump will prime and I will have spark to the coils?
hopefully, yes :cool:
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Post Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:43 pm

Thanks a lot mate!! I have faith that is what it is. But after all I have achieved I'm kicking myself for this LOL, feel stupid but we all make mistakes.
Cheers again, I will post up the result tomoro.
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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:41 am

She lives!!! So happy its amazing! It was 1 wire that I missed. Now its connected she's running and I love it!! 8)
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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:35 am

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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:52 pm

:D :D Christmas come early!! I'm buzzin mate :D
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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:56 pm

Nice one! :D
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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:12 pm

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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:23 pm

I'm not going to take it out till I get the lsd, first drive will be to prospeed exhausts for custom back from the downpipes. I'm a happy man :D
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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:43 pm

glad you got it sorted :thumb:
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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:04 pm

Next step, diffin :D
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Post Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:28 pm

Haha yeah, thanx for any help anyones given me :D
Wash and a t-cut tomoro now get her lookin good while I wait. Gotta raise funds for the lsd, short shift kit and a new prop centre dougnut while I'm there.

I'm supprised how quick it revs!! Its like a bike 8O, wouldn't be like that if I had left the dual mass on there I bet :D
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