Hartge H23, Resto, final touches !

[e30topless]

you could be right Theo, that early type rear spoiler looks just like the early Alpina C1 ?

how many other H23's are known about ? can't be that many

[Scott72]

Hi,
I have a 1984 H23 imported to the US in 84. Has pretty much all of the hartge options back then including the long range fuel tank, gauge package, etc. Here are some pics. I have more I can share if you like. The first pic is as it is now with Hartge 16" rims and side skirts. The second pic is right off the boat in 84. No side skirts, BBS RAs, and a early front spoiler (which was replaced at some point). It also had a tan interior with Recaro seats, but not E30 Recaros, more like the E21 Recaros. Now has grey houndstooth sports seats and grey interior.

[Felix79]

you could be right Theo, that early type rear spoiler looks just like the early Alpina C1 ?

how many other H23's are known about ? can't be that many

Yup they look just the same as mine

[e30topless]

Scott72 , isn't that tavern gnomes old H23 ?

I love the colour and no doubt rot free? strange how it arrived over there with bbs ra's ?

more pics ? please especially under the bonnet

I thought so Felix !

[Scott72]

Yes, it is TavernGnomes old car. I have taken what he started and kept going with it. Pretty much replaced every hose and vacumn line on the car. All the cooling, and many bushings. Next up is a Dogleg sport box sitting in my garage. It is running a 3:25 rear end and it doesn't suit the cammed 2.3L at all. Sport box should help that. Her are some more pics. I can take whatever you need too if there is something specific you want to look at. Everything is pretty much original mechanially from what I can tell except the radiator (newer style) and exhaust (except the Hartge Headers).

As it is now.


When I got the car

[clarko74]

When I was looking to buy a set of Hartge wheels I had the chance to buy a set off an H23 (but they were too pricey), the original rear tyres were 245 wide and the shell had appropriate work done to the arches to accommodate them. HTH.

[e30topless]

Yes, it is TavernGnomes old car. I have taken what he started and kept going with it. Pretty much replaced every hose and vacumn line on the car. All the cooling, and many bushings. Next up is a Dogleg sport box sitting in my garage. It is running a 3:25 rear end and it doesn't suit the cammed 2.3L at all. Sport box should help that. Her are some more pics. I can take whatever you need too if there is something specific you want to look at. Everything is pretty much original mechanially from what I can tell except the radiator (newer style) and exhaust (except the Hartge Headers).

As it is now.

that's looking much better, new bottles and a BMW white battery make all the difference

so which Radiator have you fitted?

[Ollie_bwoii]

The Spoiler may look similiar to the H23 item, but alas it is not identical.

Nice project though steve... Shame it a dechrome one though.

[e30topless]

it's getting the chrome back !

[Ollie_bwoii]

Oh that will be awesome.

May have to collect them wheels just so I can see this.

[e30topless]

will get better pics tommorow Ollie, you may not like the destruction !

[Ollie_bwoii]

HaHa... Can't wait for them. I miss having a chrome turd so much.

[Scott72]

I'm excited to see more pics of this H23. So few left that I know of.

The radiator I used was a Behr part # 17111468068. Same as used in a 325E. Larger than the original that was a lot like an e21 323i radiator (i think the original is part # 17111177702).

[e30topless]

thanks for the part no's Scott, it will need one ..

took a few pics today but i think my camera has had it,







No sunroof !



this going to need some leverzzz


evryone should have at least 1 donor car


hmm whats been going on here?



Time to take it apart





Nice lenso's





Hartge rear strut brace


anyone got the part number for these ?

[Ollie_bwoii]

Nice chariot. Some interesting choices on styling.

What's the donor car steve? Looks nice.

[magpie]

look at all that lovely work space

[Rav335uk]

Ask PAul, diddler, he ordered new ones for shitter.

[Scott72]

Looks like there are two sizes - 144MM (41128200462) and 105MM (51711946184). Not sure which is correct.

[Dezzy]

Where is it Steve?

Not at yours is it? How rotten is it?

[The_Diddler]

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E46/C ... y_plug/#22

Item 22 buddy x3

Much better.......

[spook]

If i were a northern coont i would be over helping,


And robbing

[bmwsport]

I recall that NGK sticker, was this the one advertised at around 3.5k? How much did you pay? Looks like a good solid base car, there was also another red H23 but unfortunately that has now been broken by automac iirc It did look in a right state though...

Got to love the pre-facelift Hartge's & Alpina's, that Alpina C1 on the other thread is ubber too, identical conversions, different tuning houses. These are the E30's that will appreciate in value/gain cult status the quickest (disregarding the M3) IMO, these are true classics in the making along with tech 1's.

[Alex]

you selling the wheels bruv? i dont mind them too much

thats Andys old 323i isnt it

[bmwsport]

Was it just Hartge.de who did the single wiper conversion - Not Birds?

[e30topless]

cheers Diddly

Where is it Steve?

Not at yours is it? How rotten is it?

I have use of a warehouse , even my frag will not fill it ! it has some rot but it's really quite good

Donk out tommorow !

[e30topless]

Was it just Hartge.de who did the single wiper conversion - Not Birds?

I think birds did it as an option ?

[e30ata]

cheers Diddly

Where is it Steve?

Not at yours is it? How rotten is it?

it has some rot but it's really quite good

Donk out tommorow !

You mean it's a shed

[Rav335uk]

I spot a nice shiney ford connect

[Dezzy]

Nice one Steve.
Looks to be a 'proper' project fir you to get stuck into again

[e30ata]

I spot a nice shiney ford connect

keep of the drugs rav

[e30topless]

Nice one Steve.
Looks to be a 'proper' project fir you to get stuck into again

it is Dez, really enjoying it tbh, next time your about drop by

I spot a nice shiney ford connect

my winter daily/work van 0-60 in 15 mins

[E30BeemerLad]

What's the deal with that black chromie you're raping there?

[Rav335uk]

I spot a nice shiney ford connect

keep of the drugs rav

I don't do drugs Ata

[Dezzy]

I will Steve. I will bring your door pod.

Rav doesn't smoke the shit, he talks it.

[Topblag]

Is Knight Rider's mobile docking station in the background ?

Fook me that's a big rig.