CR24v Custom M52B30 FTW. New Exhaust, New gearbox and Fan.
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jmc330i
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Just thought - have you got the E30 M3 5 stud? And are you running the standard M3 front calipers?
If so, those wheels wont clear the anti-rattle clip on the front caliper without a 5mm spacer, but 5mm is too thick and means the wheel wont locate on the hub, just on the wheel bolts which isnt good.
Some people say run without the clip, but I dont like that idea.
Ive got 3mm spacers (so the wheel sits on the hub) and have taken a grinder to the anti-rattle clip to gain the extra clearance needed. Its not ideal, as the extra track of the M3 suspension plus the 3mm spacer does leave the front tyre very close to the arch - again, this is on mine with a 50mm front drop and the extra weight of the S50.
If so, those wheels wont clear the anti-rattle clip on the front caliper without a 5mm spacer, but 5mm is too thick and means the wheel wont locate on the hub, just on the wheel bolts which isnt good.
Some people say run without the clip, but I dont like that idea.
Ive got 3mm spacers (so the wheel sits on the hub) and have taken a grinder to the anti-rattle clip to gain the extra clearance needed. Its not ideal, as the extra track of the M3 suspension plus the 3mm spacer does leave the front tyre very close to the arch - again, this is on mine with a 50mm front drop and the extra weight of the S50.
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DanThe wrote:Get back to the VW forum JhonnoJhonno wrote:205/45 or 215/40..
I actually mean 225/40..
215/40 is a bit small
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In fact.. 8" wide..
225/40
225/40
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I have M3 5 stud. I am not using M3 anti roll bar as I have a mod'd 325i bar on with complete new bushes.
I will be using WMS 4 pots once Keri finishes the kit.
Anyone know the colour and code?
Oh and I will be running 225,40x16 t1r's as seen here on my now 4 stud ATC's

I will be using WMS 4 pots once Keri finishes the kit.
Anyone know the colour and code?
Oh and I will be running 225,40x16 t1r's as seen here on my now 4 stud ATC's


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Jhonno
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You do know that the M3 runs a thinner bar as the roll bar mounting method makes it more effective for a given thickness.. Therefore you will be running a pretty stiff front roll bar now.. Might make it a bit understeery
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Mate I am leaving the anti roll bar bolted throgh the bottom arm. I may change to complete M3 in the future but I will see how it feels as is for now.
The 5 stud isn't going on straight away. As I just want it up and running first.
The 5 stud isn't going on straight away. As I just want it up and running first.

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I think I will try without the anti rattle clip and see how I go. The 4 pot kit will be ready by the time I swap anyway hopefully. If so I won't even fit the front brakes. 

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AyeRM2186 wrote:Dez, OT mate, but can you switch some tyres over for me on 4 BBS wheels

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You could always get the outside pad machined down a bit to bring the caliper inwards
With 8 inch rims id be going for 225/45, I keep thinking I should have used them on my 7.5 Hartges, need more 'stance' innit
With 8 inch rims id be going for 225/45, I keep thinking I should have used them on my 7.5 Hartges, need more 'stance' innit
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Nar mate. I will have the stance with ET 23 and M3 setup.
I am not a fan of big side walls.
Outside pad Dan?
I am not a fan of big side walls.
Outside pad Dan?

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Bit too much tyre wall for my liking..DanThe wrote:You could always get the outside pad machined down a bit to bring the caliper inwards
With 8 inch rims id be going for 225/45, I keep thinking I should have used them on my 7.5 Hartges, need more 'stance' innit
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Chromie rear arches remember, ive bought some 5mm spacers for my rear wheels in an attempt to make it look more like the front
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Dan outside pad?
The stut leg where the caliper bolts through or the Cartier its self?
I want to leave the strut standard but I would cnsider taking 4mm off the carrier if it's safe?
The stut leg where the caliper bolts through or the Cartier its self?
I want to leave the strut standard but I would cnsider taking 4mm off the carrier if it's safe?

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No the pad friction material, if there is less material the caliper moves inwards
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I know what you mean - as in part-worn pads move sliding calipers away from the wheel.
That's why sometimes people buy alloys that "just fit" sliding calipers....but then DON'T when they next get new pads!!!
That's why sometimes people buy alloys that "just fit" sliding calipers....but then DON'T when they next get new pads!!!
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Ah I get you mate. I may just do that to the pads that were in then till^^^ sorts out the 4 pot option. 

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Would be worth giving sir keri some dimensions for your new wheels then, if they are that tight with standard calipers
Talking about calipers mine should be ready for me tomorrow, cant wait
Talking about calipers mine should be ready for me tomorrow, cant wait
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Are we talking 540 rears for the E46 disc's Dan?DanThe wrote:Would be worth giving sir keri some dimensions for your new wheels then, if they are that tight with standard calipers
Talking about calipers mine should be ready for me tomorrow, cant wait

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Not yet I'm afraid...I know nothing about the M3 kit-to-be as it's going to be a sod to get 300mm / 16" fit (but just possible I hope).DanThe wrote:Would be worth giving sir keri some dimensions for your new wheels then, if they are that tight with standard calipers
I'll be sure you guys get to see it first though!
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Keri if you want me to send a wheel closer to the time for a test fit I will?
Pics tyred up for anyone thinking of Tyres.



To me that looks
Pics tyred up for anyone thinking of Tyres.



To me that looks

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Keri if you want me to send a wheel closer to the time for a test fit I will?
Pics tyred up for anyone thinking of Tyres.



To me that looks
Pics tyred up for anyone thinking of Tyres.



To me that looks

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E38 BBS, nice! I had a set on my E28 and I have a spare set for a rainy day when I either convert an E21 or E30 to 5 stud! Keep up the good work.
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They look good
No BMW spec valves in stock mate?
No BMW spec valves in stock mate?
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I have some BBS valve capsDanThe wrote:They look good![]()
No BMW spec valves in stock mate?
I will be using mini motorbike valves when I fit them up properly. It's stripped back off now as them Tyres are going on the 4 stud's when they are back from coating.

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Cool! Shouldn't need to though, I'll be creating the PDFs for all new kits from now on.Dezzy wrote:Keri if you want me to send a wheel closer to the time for a test fit I will?
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Thats does look good. 225/40s?Dezzy wrote:
To me that looks
I think I may struggle to get 225/40s on the rear of mine until I raise the car a little (stupid facelift arches) as Im getting a little tyre rub with my current setup under hard acceleration (205/55/15s on ET20 15x7"s). I think I may struggle on the front also. Thats another reason I havent bought any tyres yet.
I guess using the 4-pot caliper is part of the problem, but I think that the 16x8" wheel above will fit over a 300mm disc with a sliding caliper (but with the same anti-rattle clip issues though) and the wheel will also definitely fit on the front of an E36 M3 with standard brakes (315mm).keri-WMS wrote:I know nothing about the M3 kit-to-be as it's going to be a sod to get 300mm / 16" fit (but just possible I hope)
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Dezzy
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225,40x16 mate
They are about 6mm smaller that 205,55x15 so you should be ok unless it's the width that's an issue. As the 55's are a ballon I reckon they will be better on the car than standard size.
My 4 studs are back from coating. When I get a second I will upload the pics.
They are about 6mm smaller that 205,55x15 so you should be ok unless it's the width that's an issue. As the 55's are a ballon I reckon they will be better on the car than standard size.
My 4 studs are back from coating. When I get a second I will upload the pics.

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You could always roll the arches James
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I don't know that there will be a problem yet! Clearance depends on the particular 4-pot, also some sliding calipers are huuuuge.jmc330i wrote:I guess using the 4-pot caliper is part of the problem, but I think that the 16x8" wheel above will fit over a 300mm disc with a sliding caliper (but with the same anti-rattle clip issues though) and the wheel will also definitely fit on the front of an E36 M3 with standard brakes (315mm).keri-WMS wrote:I know nothing about the M3 kit-to-be as it's going to be a sod to get 300mm / 16" fit (but just possible I hope)
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I would say that the M3 sliding calipers are bigger than my 4 pots. I haven't had them next to each other yet though.
Or James could double rubber the rear springs to get that little raise. On top of the spring the rubber is much smaller so use 2 bottoms?
Or James could double rubber the rear springs to get that little raise. On top of the spring the rubber is much smaller so use 2 bottoms?
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Wheels Looked fab Dez 
Thanks for picking up the spoiler while you were at Steves
Thanks for picking up the spoiler while you were at Steves
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No problem Alex.
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FAO James, I have a pair of 10mm spacers which i took off Buster`s old car which fit between the rubber and the spring on the rear to lift it without the need for new springs if theyre of any use to you.
Those Ronals look good Dezzy, if i still had the sport i would have been ripping your arm off for them, E30`s look good on 16`s
Those Ronals look good Dezzy, if i still had the sport i would have been ripping your arm off for them, E30`s look good on 16`s
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When I am ready to move them on I don't think I will have any problem shifting them.
They look the nuts withthe Tyres on Matt. I will stick some pics up in a bit.
Thanks for letting Steve know I wanted that sunroof pannel btw.
They look the nuts withthe Tyres on Matt. I will stick some pics up in a bit.
Thanks for letting Steve know I wanted that sunroof pannel btw.

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