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Thu May 27, 2010 12:51 am

Ive done a search nut have come up with difrent figures??

Ive got a E-reg 1988 325i Touring anyone know what the BHP is?

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Thu May 27, 2010 1:08 am

You might have a high comp engine if its an '88 - possibly 174 bhp :?:

Change the ecu to motronic 1.3 and chip it! Cheap & easy mod.
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e30shed wrote:You might have a high comp engine if its an '88 - possibly 174 bhp :?:

Change the ecu to motronic 1.3 and chip it! Cheap & easy mod.
O tell me more :D I like cheap and easy because Im not that great with diy on cars and am poor!! :D

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e30shed wrote:You might have a high comp engine if its an '88 - possibly 174 bhp :?:

Change the ecu to motronic 1.3 and chip it! Cheap & easy mod.
But dont you need to change the whole loom first.
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e30shed wrote:You might have a high comp engine if its an '88 - possibly 174 bhp :?:

Change the ecu to motronic 1.3 and chip it! Cheap & easy mod.
But dont you need to change the whole loom first.
No loom change required. I got a 173 ecu from an E34 525i for about £20 from ebay, and an Alpina copy chip from a Zoner for £15. Fitted them myself without really knowing what I was doing, took 20 mins. Now have a small increase in BHP,better throttle response and a higher rev limit, no brainer.

This is what you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0567999301

Hope it helps!
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171 bhp for the 325i
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Thu May 27, 2010 7:19 am

If you still or ever had 171 your very lucky. No one can tell you what bhp your engine has. Only the dyno rollers and they arnt completely accurate.

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Thu May 27, 2010 7:47 am

If it's a touring, it won't have a high comp unless it had a swap at some point. And it will already be running the later motronic, They are all supposed to be 171hp but achived in different way's....
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Dezzy wrote:If you still or ever had 171 your very lucky. No one can tell you what bhp your engine has. Only the dyno rollers and they arnt completely accurate.

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Is the bhp figure for the Fly or wheels?
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Flywheel as it's a higher figure (more consumer impressing)
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Thu May 27, 2010 12:48 pm

e30shed wrote:
Blitz wrote:
e30shed wrote:You might have a high comp engine if its an '88 - possibly 174 bhp :?:

Change the ecu to motronic 1.3 and chip it! Cheap & easy mod.
But dont you need to change the whole loom first.
No loom change required. I got a 173 ecu from an E34 525i for about £20 from ebay, and an Alpina copy chip from a Zoner for £15. Fitted them myself without really knowing what I was doing, took 20 mins. Now have a small increase in BHP,better throttle response and a higher rev limit, no brainer.

This is what you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0567999301

Hope it helps!
If I get the ECU has it got to be chiped or can I just plug it straight in?
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Never seen an 'E' plate touring,I always thought that they started to import them into the UK in September '88.....
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Thu May 27, 2010 1:11 pm

I've got a G touring.

Sure I have seen a J reg touring??? I might be making that up though..

Ah. sorry. Just realised the meaning of the word 'oldest'.

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daimlerman wrote:Never seen an 'E' plate touring,I always thought that they started to import them into the UK in September '88.....
Making the oldest 'F' plate,and all were 'facelift'!
They did come out on the late E plate the tourings there was one in the boon yard i went months ago.
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Hey ppl, I hoping to do this ecu convertion on my 325i , I have been told it's a facelift engine ( not the good one) :( , can the e34 ecu 173 fit this engine and make a diffrence by chipping it? Thanks. :eek:
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gafta wrote:Hey ppl, I hoping to do this ecu convertion on my 325i , I have been told it's a facelift engine ( not the good one) :( , can the e34 ecu 173 fit this engine and make a diffrence by chipping it? Thanks. :eek:
If your on a 073 ecu set up now and you have two fly wheel sensors at the gearbox end (by the starter) Then it is worth doing. It is a case of swapping the engine looms over along with the front pully /crank sensor, brackets ect.. If it is a 172 or 173 in there, then just get a chip off of Ant or speedtouch.
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Fri May 28, 2010 9:52 am

e30shed wrote:
Blitz wrote:
e30shed wrote:You might have a high comp engine if its an '88 - possibly 174 bhp :?:

Change the ecu to motronic 1.3 and chip it! Cheap & easy mod.
But dont you need to change the whole loom first.
No loom change required. I got a 173 ecu from an E34 525i for about £20 from ebay, and an Alpina copy chip from a Zoner for £15. Fitted them myself without really knowing what I was doing, took 20 mins. Now have a small increase in BHP,better throttle response and a higher rev limit, no brainer.

This is what you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0567999301

Hope it helps!
I would very much like to do this mod is there any specific ECU that i need to buy or can it be one off any E34 525i? my car is a 1988 E30 325i convertible auto your info very much appreciated :wink:
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Fri May 28, 2010 10:41 am

zaust wrote:
gafta wrote:Hey ppl, I hoping to do this ecu convertion on my 325i , I have been told it's a facelift engine ( not the good one) :( , can the e34 ecu 173 fit this engine and make a diffrence by chipping it? Thanks. :eek:
If your on a 073 ecu set up now and you have two fly wheel sensors at the gearbox end (by the starter) Then it is worth doing. It is a case of swapping the engine looms over along with the front pully /crank sensor, brackets ect.. If it is a 172 or 173 in there, then just get a chip off of Ant or speedtouch.
cheers for your quick response, problem I'm having is I have no ecu , I bought the engine but came with no ecu :(
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cbv8 wrote:
e30shed wrote:
Blitz wrote: But dont you need to change the whole loom first.
No loom change required. I got a 173 ecu from an E34 525i for about £20 from ebay, and an Alpina copy chip from a Zoner for £15. Fitted them myself without really knowing what I was doing, took 20 mins. Now have a small increase in BHP,better throttle response and a higher rev limit, no brainer.

This is what you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0567999301

Hope it helps!
I would very much like to do this mod is there any specific ECU that i need to buy or can it be one off any E34 525i? my car is a 1988 E30 325i convertible auto your info very much appreciated :wink:
Not one relpy to my question come on all you BMW experts out there :roll:
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I've got an E plate Alpina C2 2.5 Touring, it was supposably the demonstrator for the dealer back in the day. Sytner have confirmed it's an original car in writing and have stated the conversion took place in sept 1988.
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e30shed wrote: No loom change required. I got a 173 ecu from an E34 525i for about £20 from ebay, and an Alpina copy chip from a Zoner for £15. Fitted them myself without really knowing what I was doing, took 20 mins. Now have a small increase in BHP,better throttle response and a higher rev limit, no brainer.

This is what you need: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0567999301

Hope it helps!
I would very much like to do this mod is there any specific ECU that i need to buy or can it be one off any E34 525i? my car is a 1988 E30 325i convertible auto your info very much appreciated :wink:
Not one relpy to my question come on all you BMW experts out there :roll:

Likley hood is that you have a late engine, Where are you crank sensor/s as this will determin what managment you need. Or no one can tell you which ecu to get. And yes if you have a later set up then a e34 525 ecu will work. But still need you to awnser or take a few pic's of the engine.
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