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Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:43 am

Thanks for the tip Ross :)

I guess if someone can confirm for definate that this prefacelift manual rack will def fit with a 6 branch it will be an extra selling point we should promote
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:27 pm

I will DEFINITLY have a quick rack at that price, was thinking on a Z3 rack but this is a better option so add me to the list...

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Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:37 pm

Just 8 more! Do we need the full 20 people or will they take close to that number?
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:57 pm

he said he will let them know when we are getting close to spur them on a bit.

could already have the numbers made up though as he did say he had posted on another forum.
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:21 pm

I'm in....

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Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:44 pm

You should have no problems with clearance on any components and it's purely the inside that's different.

jonnygould wrote:I will DEFINITLY have a quick rack at that price
£100 is a very vague guide figure it could be more. All the same the cost of this and the donor rack will be less than fitting a Z3 one.


vladv wrote:rix313, did you consider rebuilding of the powerstering racks? Why just manual?

And one more: sorry for my stupid question but if quife cut the teeth of the rack to make it quicker so I need to supply to them my donor rack to cut it, isn't it?
As Ross said, they only have the facilities to build manual racks.

No they will cut a new rack and send it to you for you to fit.
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:13 pm

if you can get a 2.1 made count me in!
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:16 pm

2.1 isn't looking that likely as 90% want a 2.5. I'd also prefer the 2.1 if possible...
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:50 pm

also prefer 2.1 or 2.2
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:59 am

Haven't got a rack to use or even started building the car I'd use it on but I'll cross that bridge when I need to so count me in.

Reckon I'd keep the clubsport rack and the quicker PAS steering in the road and drift cars though as a manual might prove alittle tough in those circumstances...


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Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:49 am

rix313 wrote: £100 is a very vague guide figure it could be more.
Could be less winkeye
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:04 pm

Fingers crossed Craig :D

I'll be sending my rack off soon for them to have a look at.
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:35 am

So you don't actually need a rack for this right. Just need to pay for the new rack and pinion and then fit it when rebuilding your own manual steering rack when you track one down and get round to putting it together :)
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:52 am

yep.

it is literally just the rack and pinion part of the rack.

im gonna hazard a guess that they will be near as makes no difference to £100 based on other quaife kits on the market
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:08 am

I am sure you will get some takers on S14.net if LHD is possible. Do you want me to put a post up?
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I posted up at Russian and Ukrain forums. Hope will be some enthusiasts. I am in)
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:08 am

I'm going to have to go for one what ever the ratio. Around 2.1 get my vote though :D

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Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:16 pm

What about the rack rebuild? i.e. new boots, seals, grease etc. Will these be part of the kit or will it be a visit to the dealer's?
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Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:23 pm

dealers.

it will literally be a steel bar with some teeth carved into it and a pinion gear.

go look on say rally designs at the rack and pinion quaife kits to get an idea of what it is.

either way, the other bits aren't going to cost the earth :)
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Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:42 am

cool thanks!
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Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:43 pm

Will a max angel of wheels turning with Quaife rack be the same as stock?
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Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:01 pm

i would imagine so based on what i know about other quick racks.

which makes it better in that respect to a z3 rack (for the drift boys especially) because the z3 lack limits the total amount of movement
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Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

It being a manual rack isn't great for drifting though...

I'll probably still go with 1.7 or 2 turns with PAS on my drift car but the Quaife rack would be sweet for a track and/or race car 8)
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Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:22 pm

ah right interesting to know.

for some reason i had it in my head a lot of drifters use manual
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Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:24 pm

Rack is boxed up and booked to be picked up by DHL tomorrow. Hopefuly might have a price and some solid info by the end of the week but we shall see.

If/when this goes ahead, I'll send the list to them and make it so you ring them directly, quote your number and user name and pay for it that way.

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Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:18 am

So what rack - Quaife or Z3 - will be better for drifting?
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:36 pm

must admit I didn't find E30 stock 4.4 turns manual steering too heavy at all! I guess there will be more effort required to spin the wheel on a 2.5 rack though - still I'd imagine drifting would just be good exercise for your arms winkeye
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rix313 wrote: If/when this goes ahead, I'll send the list to them and make it so you ring them directly, quote your number and user name and pay for it that way.
This is now pish.

The way they treat it is as one order, by one person and one payment :roll: so you kind fellows send me the money, I'll pay, get a shed load of racks sent to me then I will DHL them out.
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:54 pm

sounds good if you are up to it?

do they need 20 guaranteed payments, as we all know a lot of people will not pay up when it comes down to it
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Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:43 pm

ross_jsy wrote:sounds good if you are up to it?
I'm up for it as long as it all goes ahead.

ross_jsy wrote:do they need 20 guaranteed payments, as we all know a lot of people will not pay up when it comes down to it
Thats what I'm a little worried about but we shall cross that bridge when we come to it.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:26 am

Guys, just bear in mind that with a manual quick rack and sticky tyres the car will become completely unusable for day to day driving. I have a modified 2.2 turns quaife escort rack fitted to my car and parking/slow turns are unbelievably difficult. Dont want to piss in anyones chips, just talking from experience. If your serious about this then look into a corsa EPAS conversion at the same time to compliment it.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:12 am

mikey was telling me about your rack martin.

have you got the PAS conversion? if not how did you find it up the hill without it?
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:21 am

I havent been up the hill with this rack yet, but it wont be very fun as it is, will play around with the corsa column over the summer.
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Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:23 am

Hmm interesting. We were talking about using corsa bits, but Mikey dismissed it as giving no feeling, will be very interested to hear what you find.

You have a PM btw.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:40 am

Friend was suggesting a Corsa pump too the other night. I think a steering quickener is probably still the better option for drifting though.
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