will 316 m10 parts and exhaust fit...........

[wayneE30]

on a 318i


just wondering

[eko]

on an m10 yes,
M40 no

[wayneE30]

how can you tell what engine you have??????

[eko]

Picture of M10 engine,i think these were fitted upto 1988/9 then went to M40 although someone may prove me wrong

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn ... m/02engine

[wayneE30]

have you got a bigger pic?

[wayneE30]

also a windscreen and headlight from 316 to 318i???? and how hard is it

[eko]

to make the picture bigger i think you right click on it,then save to my pictures then go veiw it in there!I think you can enlarge it,but you may lose some of the quality

What about windscreen and headlight?
Have both spare if you need them?

[Peca]

@ wayneE30: M10 engine

If thats your car on the picture you have M40 i believe.

[Gwynleym10]

NO Wayne has a late bodied m10 carb car, only a few of them around.

[Richy325iTouring]

if waynes is carbed then he has the m10 and thus if his engine looks like this its def an m10

[wayneE30]

this has all got a little confusing i have now got a 316 m10 carb and a 1989 f plate 318i i was just wondering what engine the 318i is and if the 316 parts are compatible with the 318i

[eko]

If your 318i engine looks the same as the 316 then yes most parts including exhaust are the same,obviously apart from injection side of things

[Gwynleym10]

Right,

Your 316 is m10
Your 89 318i is m40

As your 316 is late bodied all body parts (lights screen etc etc) will be a straight swap.

Engine/ engine electrics/cooling etc etc will NOT SWAP! No chance completely different.

M10 exhaust will not fit m40s and visa versa.

I think the only thing you can swap is the gearbox, and that i'm not certain about.

[wayneE30]

yeah thats the problem see i havent got the 318 here yet to put up next to the 316 so i was trying to find out by asking so i can plan the restoration of the 318i and the destruction of the 316 i guesse im gonna have to get them together??

[Gwynleym10]

If there is nothing wrong with the 89318i engine (which i doubt it as its an m40 and they are crap.....) then you should be fine, with lights and body work.

What is wrong with the 318i?

[wayneE30]

Right,

Your 316 is m10
Your 89 318i is m40

As your 316 is late bodied all body parts (lights screen etc etc) will be a straight swap.

Engine/ engine electrics/cooling etc etc will NOT SWAP! No chance completely different.

M10 exhaust will not fit m40s and visa versa.

I think the only thing you can swap is the gearbox, and that i'm not certain about.

its deffo an m40 is it???


oh well looks like my plan is going tits up

[Gwynleym10]

yup deffo m40 that year.

What is wrong with the car (318i) then?

[wayneE30]

If there is nothing wrong with the 89318i engine (which i doubt it as its an m40 and they are crap.....) then you should be fine, with lights and body work.

What is wrong with the 318i?

crack in the windscreen passenger side


drivers side headlight glass cracked


exhaust blowing at the manifold and under the car possibly back box not sure havent had a good look yet

engine is good a hell of alot better than the 316 plus its a manual gearbox

[Gwynleym10]

screen can be swapped, but hell of an effort...but if its on passenger side may not be MOT failure, depends how big it is.

Headlights, just swop the whole lot!



Exhaust, sounds to me as if its missing the gearbox support, this can be nicked from your 316.

m40 exhuast are pretty cheap really, might be able to get a second hand one from a breaker. but gsf copy ones are cheap and just about o.k

If the engines o.k and its manual then your halfway there.

You 316 is zinnober isn't it? I'll give you some dollars for the bonnet and wings and possibly more panels.....

[wayneE30]

it is zinnober yes mate



sounds good to
me

the windscreen bit of a job???

how hard

[eko]

changed windscreen in mine last weekend,fairly easy to do,but ended up getting a windscreen fitter to put the chrome trim back in,only a fiver though so cheap fi x

[Gwynleym10]

It can be done but I ithkn yo need some tools, do a search there have been some topics in the tech sections in the dim past.

Wahoo! zinnaber! Beet you Ziggy!

P.M me when you ready to start the pilaging and i'll give you a hand if you want some saturday.

[Gwynleym10]

Oh I though it was a harder job, good man eko!

[wayneE30]

yeah ok mate its gonna be quite soonish im getting the 318 here on the weekend as soon as i do that the 316 is dead i need to do it quick as im gonna need a car i just hope the 318 wont have any nasty suprises come mot day

[eko]

easy enought to do

1,remove plastic insert(carefull not to snap it
2,run flat blade screwdriver around the edge of glass to release the seal
3,from inside car push the old screen out(use both feet its easier
4,place new screen equally spaced over the seal
5,use pallet knife/screwdriver and carefully run around the seal fliping it over the new screen
6,refit plastic trim(NIGHTMARE)

this is basically how i did mine,to read its a bit strange but its self explanitary when you do it,JUST BE CAREFULL and have patience,it took me about 3/4 hour

hope this helps

[Martinaston]

Sorry to piss on the parade but if the crack in the windscreen is coming up from the scuttle plate with no sign of stone chip damage it's normally caused by accident damage. The windscreen is designed to aid the torsional stiffness of the chassie, so if it's cracked it's telling you the cars twisted. Check the inner wing's for signs of repair and the shut lines along the bonnet and between front wing's and front doors for equal width all the way along.

[wayneE30]

i will have to check that mate thanks for the tip

[smithy318i]

2,run flat blade screwdriver around the edge of glass to release the seal

from inside the car! You will see where the glass is stuck to the screen because it is a darker black, and makes a cracking noise when pushed outward with the screwdriver.

3,from inside car push the old screen out(use both feet its easier

Have someone in front of the car to catch the screen if it should fall

6,refit plastic trim(NIGHTMARE)

Very true.! Washing up liquid helps. Push some of the outer edge into the notch then bit by bit run the screwdriver round the inside while pushing the trim into the slot as you go.

[Martinaston]

Lay on the floor and have a look at the front panel behind the skirt, the skirt is a bolt on piece and easy enough to replace but the front panel would have to be welded in place and if it's not been replaced will show any signs of accident damage or indents where it's been pulled straight.

If it doesn't look good it may be worth putting the 18 in the red one (rust?)

[wayneE30]

there is rust but nothing major

[Treeman612]

Hi, Wayne - so, you've defo given up on the 316? - been reading this thread about 318i - if you change your mind, you are still welcome to the engine/box/prop (manual box) out of my 316 donor car if you want them. Just let me know, as I'm nearly done grabbing the bits off it I need, and as no one seems interested in the engine/box/prop etc, I'll leave em in when it goes to the scrappy. Still, seems a shame as the engine (and car) have full BMWSH up to 2000 miles ago.
Good luck anyway!!

[wayneE30]

mate you truley are a star i was gonna have the engine but decieded not to in the end it would be too much work and i havent got a clue how to swap the engines+gearbox i think i would need the loom also so yeah its too much i think i wouldnt mind fixing them both up but at the end of the day i just need a reliable car so im gonna go with the 318i cheers for all your help by the way mate

[wayneE30]

Sorry to piss on the parade but if the crack in the windscreen is coming up from the scuttle plate with no sign of stone chip damage it's normally caused by accident damage. The windscreen is designed to aid the torsional stiffness of the chassie, so if it's cracked it's telling you the cars twisted. Check the inner wing's for signs of repair and the shut lines along the bonnet and between front wing's and front doors for equal width all the way along.

ive had a look mate and all the body work looks fine no un even gaps all around the panels at the front