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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:18 pm

as a few of you know i recently bought a touring off ebay, good deal Ԛ£620?? oh no............ drove 194miles there and 194miles back, nearly 400miles to veiw an absolute peice of crap!!!! could not believe my luck, honest people this car is a nail, i couldn't even attept to drive the 200miles back in it because i was affraid not to make it home so had to decline, read his advert http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... %3AIT&rd=1 must say yeh i know it was Ԛ£620 so you get what you pay for hey..... i mean am i being a little harsh? i got there and the car was nowhere near as described and felt like asking the dude to refund me my fuel costs because it was that laim, 1. paint work terrible. 2. scratches everywhere on body work. 3. m-tec kit knackered. 4. diff leaking oil. 5. wipers didnt work. 6. electric windows didnt work propperly. 7. tail gate was rotton though. 8 near enough every bulb was blown on the car. 9. "dent in bonnet" oh no... try bonnet doesnt work or lock. 10. central locking playing up. 11. fogs lights smashed. 12. temp sender not working. 13. exhaust hanging off, i mean where do these fcuking people get off?? i was gutted, as you can see from the advert it looks a pretty nice touring, in the flesh its a bag of piss, gutted!!!!!!! there will be more but there was know way i was handing over Ԛ£620 for a car worth Ԛ£100, i mean this car is worth more in parts but to be honest i wasn't ready to drive it 200miles home and take the risk!!! he's putting it back on ebay so please be aware,if you want it for parts buy it but if you want it as car car bin it, what a w@nker!!!!
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:25 pm

sorry to hear that mate :(

what's he on about with the full m3 kit etc :? :?

he only points out about 10% of all the bad bits in his advert :x
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:32 pm

i know buddy im gutted, m3 kit :pff: tec 2 more like it, sounds like he aint got a fcuking clue mate
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:35 pm

what was his reaction when you pointed out that the car is crap?

is he gonna leave bad feedback, or are you?
what a coincidense (spell) that he lost the head rebuild receipt allong with all the other history :mad:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:39 pm

tell me about it dude, what a tool! its a right dog, the only thing possibly worth saving was the tec kit, its shit even the engine felt like it was gonna fall out!
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:41 pm

TW166Y wrote:even the engine felt like it was gonna fall out!
:lol:

even tho he discribes it as perfect :hammer: fukkin tosser cost you at least 1 full tank right?
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:42 pm

[quote="329iturbo"]what was his reaction when you pointed out that the car is crap?

is he gonna leave bad feedback, or are you? he just kept on saying at the end of the day mate you have bought it at an auction, i said at the end of the day mate i aint giving you Ԛ£620 for it, for some strange reason i got him down to Ԛ£400 just like that i and didnt even wanna pay that for it, believe me its a dog!! dont know what happens regarding feedback, ill leave it if he will
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:44 pm

329iturbo wrote:
TW166Y wrote:even the engine felt like it was gonna fall out!
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even tho he discribes it as perfect :hammer: fukkin tosser cost you at least 1 full tank right?
cost me Ԛ£50 in diesel (mates van) Ԛ£35 to change my insurance over and now im gonna have to fork out another Ԛ£35 to change it back to the sport, unexceptable really hes a fcuking to$$er
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:49 pm

Although yes ebay is a civil contract. He has a duty to describe the car accurately.....if not he is in breach of contract and YOU could sue him for travelling costs.
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:55 pm

TW166Y wrote:he just kept on saying at the end of the day mate you have bought it at an auction, i said at the end of the day mate i aint giving you Ԛ£620 for it
damn right, stupid wanker

weird that he just dropped it to 400 quid :squint:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:11 pm

massive wrote:Although yes ebay is a civil contract. He has a duty to describe the car accurately.....if not he is in breach of contract and YOU could sue him for travelling costs.
i think all the above says it all dude to be honest, i travelled in good faith and that tw@t let me down big time .............. what a waste of time and cash
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:12 pm

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TW166Y wrote:he just kept on saying at the end of the day mate you have bought it at an auction, i said at the end of the day mate i aint giving you Ԛ£620 for it
damn right, stupid wonker

weird that he just dropped it to 400 quid :squint:
"wanted to get rid" he said :roll: :liar:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:33 pm

You had big plans for that tourer too, what a kick in the bollox!
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:35 pm

Don't know if I agree with all you lot. You've got to take descriptions in adverts with a large pinch of salt, and read what's not there as well as what is, and you really shouldn't buy a car without seeing it first.
Youve got leather and fancy wheels for the money.
A lot of what you say doesn't work is only minor stuff that's about normal for poorly maintained E30s.
If the hydraulic tappets on the engine don't hammer away, then it's very likely that you've got a rebuilt head on it.
It only went for Ԛ£620, and as long as it's relatively rust free, then I don't think you had much to complain about, especially at the revised Ԛ£400 price.
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:42 pm

Brianmoooore wrote: It only went for Ԛ£620, and as long as it's relatively rust free, then I don't think you had much to complain about, especially at the revised Ԛ£400 price.
if genuine the mtech 2 kit is virtualy worth that
Don't know if I agree with all you lot. You've got to take descriptions in adverts with a large pinch of salt, and read what's not there as well as what is, and you really shouldn't buy a car without seeing it first.
ppl always these days seem to expect a show car for banger money (no disrespect intended, but i know my friends are like it and ppl on these forums seem the same)
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:27 pm

massive wrote:You had big plans for that tourer too, what a kick in the bollards!
gutted :(
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:33 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:Don't know if I agree with all you lot. You've got to take descriptions in adverts with a large pinch of salt, and read what's not there as well as what is, and you really shouldn't buy a car without seeing it first.
Youve got leather and fancy wheels for the money.
A lot of what you say doesn't work is only minor stuff that's about normal for poorly maintained E30s.
If the hydraulic tappets on the engine don't hammer away, then it's very likely that you've got a rebuilt head on it.
It only went for Ԛ£620, and as long as it's relatively rust free, then I don't think you had much to complain about, especially at the revised Ԛ£400 price.
brian i totally agree mate, at the end of the day it was 200miles away from my house and i would not have trusted it home dude, the engine was as noisy as anything....tap....tap....tap, if you read the advert mate none of the above faults were listed, if the guy was a genuine and decent fella surley with me driving all that way down would have told me there was a lot more wrong with it, it also was a rust bucket, rear arches are on there way and rear bootlid was rotten through as said above, it was a nail mate, im sad.... dont get me wrong i didnt expect a lot for the money but for Ԛ£600 i expected a lot more.... as you all know anyone can drop on a 4 pot touring for around 400 quid these days regardless of its condition, its just a shame this one was a heap :(
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:36 pm

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Brianmoooore wrote: It only went for Ԛ£620, and as long as it's relatively rust free, then I don't think you had much to complain about, especially at the revised Ԛ£400 price.
if genuine the mtech 2 kit is virtualy worth that
Don't know if I agree with all you lot. You've got to take descriptions in adverts with a large pinch of salt, and read what's not there as well as what is, and you really shouldn't buy a car without seeing it first.
ppl always these days seem to expect a show car for banger money (no disrespect intended, but i know my friends are like it and ppl on these forums seem the same)
:wtf: did you read the advert dude???? none of the above faults were listed, the only thing that made me buy this touring was because it had the m-tech kit on and mate that was absolutly to$$, it had big chunks missing out of it the whole dam car was a mess, like i said i didnt expect a cracking car for Ԛ£600 but c-mon mate surley you can see where im coming from??
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:41 pm

TW166Y wrote:
Chaos wrote:
Brianmoooore wrote: It only went for Ԛ£620, and as long as it's relatively rust free, then I don't think you had much to complain about, especially at the revised Ԛ£400 price.
if genuine the mtech 2 kit is virtualy worth that
Don't know if I agree with all you lot. You've got to take descriptions in adverts with a large pinch of salt, and read what's not there as well as what is, and you really shouldn't buy a car without seeing it first.
ppl always these days seem to expect a show car for banger money (no disrespect intended, but i know my friends are like it and ppl on these forums seem the same)
:wtf: did you read the advert dude???? none of the above faults were listed, the only thing that made me buy this touring was because it had the m-tech kit on and mate that was absolutly to$$, it had big chunks missing out of it the whole dam car was a mess, like i said i didnt expect a cracking car for Ԛ£600 but c-mon mate surley you can see where im coming from??
i can see where ur coming from yeah.
im merely saying some ppl (not necessarily you) expect too much at times.

sorry if i caused offence.
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:48 pm

Chaos wrote:
TW166Y wrote:
Chaos wrote: if genuine the mtech 2 kit is virtualy worth that
ppl always these days seem to expect a show car for banger money (no disrespect intended, but i know my friends are like it and ppl on these forums seem the same)
:wtf: did you read the advert dude???? none of the above faults were listed, the only thing that made me buy this touring was because it had the m-tech kit on and mate that was absolutly to$$, it had big chunks missing out of it the whole dam car was a mess, like i said i didnt expect a cracking car for Ԛ£600 but c-mon mate surley you can see where im coming from??
i can see where ur coming from yeah.
im merely saying some ppl (not necessarily you) expect too much at times.

sorry if i caused offence.
no offence caused dude, i had big plans for it thats all, was gonna bang a 3.5 in it and what not, it just needed a lot of work doing to it thats all dude for the Ԛ£600 price tag, i didnt expect a minter by all means but this really is a nail, just wanted it mainly for that m-tec kit because they are so hard to get hold of but everything on the car was in apporling condition, i had not been looked after at all dude, i was like everytime i looked at the car i found somthing else the matter with it and all of these "little" jobs mount up to big money, a deffo full respray wouldnt have gone a miss either. ill just have to spen more cash thats all dude which i dont mind at all, its just that "kit" again thats gonna be the bitch to get hold of :wink:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:56 pm

twigs mate, gutted! :-x why didnt u spark the knob for being rude, how did u keep your cool!?! 8O

shame it was a sh!tter, but better u didnt get it than part with the 400 and have an extra grand on it just to get the bucket legal :?

still should have smaked him though :wink:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:05 pm

johnono wrote:twigs mate, gutted! :-x why didnt u spark the knob for being rude, how did u keep your cool!?! 8O

shame it was a sh!tter, but better u didnt get it than part with the 400 and have an extra grand on it just to get the bucket legal :?

still should have smaked him though :wink:
exactly dude this is what im saying, it would have cost that much money to put this heap off poo to the standard i would have liked it to be, what makes it worse it had 6 months m-o-t on it?????????? "wow" all these faults suddenly appearded within 6 months did they....... i dont think so, he was trying to pull on the wrong cock i think dude because i was having none of his bullsh@t, Ԛ£400 was too much for the car and too much of a risk at 200 miles away from home, if it packed out on me on the way home i would have had to leave it on the motorway, there will be better ones dude.... must admit though dude, dont know how i kept my cool... i can be pretty hot headed at times but i supprised myself by not slapping the guy on his fcuking conk :wink:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:08 pm

lol, he is lucky mate, i wouldnt have wanted to see what happened if u did get it and it broke down at the top of his road :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:10 pm

What a shame dude :(

Plenty of tourers on auto trader :)

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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:14 pm

johnono wrote:lol, he is lucky mate, i wouldnt have wanted to see what happened if u did get it and it broke down at the top of his road :lol: :lol: :lol:
i would have done this............ aaaarrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhh.......... RIGHT !!!!!! :banghead: :lol: Ԛ£400 is a lot of cash to through at a pile of s h i t surley anyone can understand that :wink:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:17 pm

[quote="Andy335Touring"]What a shame dude :(

Plenty of tourers on auto trader :)

just been looking on there dude, seen all of those gorgeous machines, only probs is no m-tec kit :cry: ive seen a nice 4dr saloon, what do think i should do view or stick it out untill i find the tourer im after? tried to get vulvar sell me his but he still aint having any :lol:
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:23 pm

You will have a fairly long wait for an M-tec kitted Touring mate !? :cry:

What about doing the 3.5 swap on your sport ?
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:27 pm

i know this doesn't help you, and that hindsight is a great thing...

but i can't understand people agreeing/bidding to buy cars without seeing them, i'd only do this on something sold as spares/repairs (i.e. very very cheap).

a lot of stuff on ebay you can accurately assess from a few photos, but not a car!

for the record i bought both my current cars (316i, m535i) unseen from ebay, but both spares/repairs and both very cheap (Ԛ£100, Ԛ£260). i'm not trying to boast in any way, just would never pay much more than that without viewing/driving. even at 260-odd for the m535 i though carefully before bidding and felt lucky that it was exactly as advertised.
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Post Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:30 pm

Toby_Unna wrote:for the record i bought both my current cars (316i, m535i) unseen from ebay, but both spares/repairs and both very cheap (Ԛ£100, Ԛ£260). i'm not trying to boast in any way, just would never pay much more than that without viewing/driving. even at 260-odd for the m535 i though carefully before bidding and felt lucky that it was exactly as advertised.
i tend to only bid on cars on ebay that i know even if it has problems i can still get my money back on - if u see what i mean.


got any pics of the m535i toby?
i love em and am prob having one as my next fun car
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Post Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:49 am

Toby_Unna wrote:i know this doesn't help you, and that hindsight is a great thing...

but i can't understand people agreeing/bidding to buy cars without seeing them, i'd only do this on something sold as spares/repairs (i.e. very very cheap).

a lot of stuff on ebay you can accurately assess from a few photos, but not a car!

for the record i bought both my current cars (316i, m535i) unseen from ebay, but both spares/repairs and both very cheap (Ԛ£100, Ԛ£260). i'm not trying to boast in any way, just would never pay much more than that without viewing/driving. even at 260-odd for the m535 i though carefully before bidding and felt lucky that it was exactly as advertised.
you see dude thats the thing with ebay, even though the seller is "SUPPOSE" to describe the car exactly or anything he/she is selling just like you would with anything, i agree though, dont think ill ever buy another car through fleebay unless i know the car from my area or spares as you say, at the end of the day dude thats exactly what this car was "spare" there is no way it should have been on the road and was not fit to be either
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Post Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:52 am

Andy335Touring wrote:You will have a fairly long wait for an M-tec kitted Touring mate !? :cry:

What about doing the 3.5 swap on your sport ?
dude they are soooooo rare aint they !!!!! i could do the conversion with my sport but again its the number of doors issue that puts me off, really need 4dr's now because of two toddlers and a hairy mut that slobbers all over my shiney leather and im sick of cleaning it :lol: :lol:
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Post Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:42 am

That really is bad news about the tourer :roll:

I think you should speak to a lawyer about recovering the fuel/insurance costs - even if the money's not important it'll at least teach him something :twisted:
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Post Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:18 pm

Zayyan wrote:That really is bad news about the tourer :roll:

I think you should speak to a lawyer about recovering the fuel/insurance costs - even if the money's not important it'll at least teach him something :twisted:
good point, however will still probably cost more to recover my fuel expences if i went down that road, that day probably cost me the best part of Ԛ£150 all in all, tw@t!! i aint really laying it on either that car was not road worthy at all
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Post Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:44 pm

I'm brand new here and don't mean to stick my nose in but surely this is supposed to be the reason for feedback.

Nearly 200miles is a long way to go to view a car, if the fella had 60 or 70% positive then you would not have bid on it. The fact that he has a pretty good feedback should imply that he is trustworthy.

Hope you find a good one soon,

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Post Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:49 pm

ROC wrote:I'm brand new here and don't mean to stick my nose in but surely this is supposed to be the reason for feedback.

Nearly 200miles is a long way to go to view a car, if the fella had 60 or 70% positive then you would not have bid on it. The fact that he has a pretty good feedback should imply that he is trustworthy.

Hope you find a good one soon,

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exactly rich, this is what im onabout, you would buy a car from ebay....bloke says yeh its mint mate.... you get to his house car may as well be smashed up and he still expects you to take it home, i trusted this prick and it was a lot of time and cash wasted....AND I MISSED THE FCUKING ENGLAND GAME............ Welcome to zone rich by the way, be aware though theres a lot of crazy fools here too :lol:
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