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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:06 pm

Hi,

If you get the HVAC panel I would be interested in purchasing it!

Good luck with the conversion

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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:06 pm

Riiiight... the gearlinkage bit you got off the 325i *might* not work. I used a 320i one and the gear lever sits perfectly in the middle of the centre console bit. The 320i one and 325i ones are different part numbers so i dont know if they are different lengths.

Make sure though that you at least grab number 1 and 10 if you decide to get the 320i one,
http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E30/2 ... g_parts-2/

Im being useful for once :D
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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:07 pm

Electric fan,Clio servo,1 x E34 steering knuckle.....

Ive sent the seller a PM,will let you know :wink:[/quote]

clio servo, not a problem, i can grab one of those for peanuts. remind me what electric fan ineed, and from what car and which e34 knuckle ill need.

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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:10 pm

[qoute]Nah, you can never have enough spares once you have space to store them with some sort of organisation.

Definitely go back for more bits anyway if its all coming free :D[/quote]

its not coming free but ive sort of got to a point with the owner that i can take what i want as its so far stripped its only costing drink money on top of what we already agreed, :twisted:
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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:12 pm

Baurluvva wrote:Hi,

If you get the HVAC panel I would be interested in purchasing it!

Good luck with the conversion

:D
thanks, and thats another reason for me to go back and see if i can gets what left :mad:
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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:17 pm

themills wrote:Electric fan,Clio servo,1 x E34 steering knuckle.....

Ive sent the seller a PM,will let you know :wink:
clio servo, not a problem, i can grab one of those for peanuts. remind me what electric fan ineed, and from what car and which e34 knuckle ill need.

Millsy[/quote]

Elcetric fan can come from a few different cars to be honest as long as it will sit in front of thew rad.Think 16" diameter is the absolute max that will fit but maybe even 15"?
Id just get one from an E34 or E36 that has aircon fitted,these are ideal in size and fit,easy to get hold of too.
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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:18 pm

Mines 16" tony... and we know how close that it. Dont think you can fit a fag paper between the fan and the chassis :eek:
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Post Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:24 pm

Cook318IS wrote:Mines 16" tony... and we know how close that it. Dont think you can fit a fag paper between the fan and the chassis :eek:
Thought so :D
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:46 pm

ok, had the morning free as i had to see my daughters performance at school so sneaked a visit back to the E30 winkeye

few more bits.
3 14 inch bbs centre caps,an osr light and both holders with bulbs


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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:47 pm

the headlights and dash clocks.
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:48 pm

the computer from near the interior mirror which is in german which is quite cool
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:49 pm

the lhd panel complete with heater controls, switches and cables (i cut the loom too so all connectors are still there :mad: )
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:50 pm

and lastly (hopefully) the loom needed for the obc that i didnt have time for yesterday.
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:35 pm

Millsy PM sent about manifolds.
Also youll be needing the coding plug out of the front of those dash clocks you have got above :wink:
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:24 pm

eko wrote:Millsy PM sent about manifolds.
Also youll be needing the coding plug out of the front of those dash clocks you have got above :wink:
ok, whats a coding plug? :eek:

and im seeing the guy tomorrow about the 3.2 manifolds. if they are either to expensive or not available i shall contact the guy tomorrow evening.

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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:46 pm

themills wrote:
eko wrote:Millsy PM sent about manifolds.
Also youll be needing the coding plug out of the front of those dash clocks you have got above :wink:
ok, whats a coding plug? :eek:

and im seeing the guy tomorrow about the 3.2 manifolds. if they are either to expensive or not available i shall contact the guy tomorrow evening.

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Coding plug is the small White plug in unit in the bottom right hand corner of the gauges,just hold the two side tabs and it will pull out.


Forgot you mentioned the Evo manifold,ill PM the guy selling the M52 ones and keep him informed.
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:30 pm

themills wrote:the computer from near the interior mirror which is in german which is quite cool
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On UK versions of this, the LH panel is just black plastic, but for some markets there are up to four horizontal strips with messages that are illuminated from behind.
Does this have any bulbs fitted behind the LH panel? If so, remove them, and hold it up to the light.
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:57 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:
themills wrote:the computer from near the interior mirror which is in german which is quite cool
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On UK versions of this, the LH panel is just black plastic, but for some markets there are up to four horizontal strips with messages that are illuminated from behind.
Does this have any bulbs fitted behind the LH panel? If so, remove them, and hold it up to the light.
That will do well on ebay :)
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:01 pm

You have PM :D
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Post Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:11 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:
themills wrote:the computer from near the interior mirror which is in german which is quite cool
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On UK versions of this, the LH panel is just black plastic, but for some markets there are up to four horizontal strips with messages that are illuminated from behind.
Does this have any bulbs fitted behind the LH panel? If so, remove them, and hold it up to the light.

Right, ive had a look and it doesnt have any bulbs in it although it does have the holes in the back for 4 of the push and twist bulbs and holders. It also doesnt seem to have any extra writing in it as when i hold it up to the light, only the red shines through from the check items. (albeit in german)

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Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:41 pm

Well, ive been out scourcing some extra bits and have now found what is beleived to be, a 3.2 M3 evo manifold with gaskets 8)
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just the sump, servo, electric fan and a couple of extrs little bits and im there :D

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Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:48 pm

An S50 manifold, you have some fun ahead :)
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Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:59 pm

E30BeemerLad wrote:An S50 manifold, you have some fun ahead :)
ok, what does that mean? good? bad? ugly? lol

Tell me (as i have to pass this on to Eko) 8O

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Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:37 pm

The manifold bolts straight to the head no probs at all.

If you are not going to modify the primary for number 6 at the back then you'll have to bash in the bulkhead about 5-10mm on the corner of the transmission tunnel about level with where the steering column exits the bulkhead. You'll also have to lose the sound deadening in this area.

Also, the pipes need modifying slightly after the lambda boss mounts where they elbow around, this is to give you clearance over the front anti-roll bar. Mine was modifed here and I also had to lower the mount of the front ARB slightly and even then had to bash the manifold in a bit due to the ARB resting on the the collector pipe when the car was jacked up.

Final tip, make sure the manifolds are fitted to the engine before putting the engine in the car, they are near impossible to fit once the engine is in situ.

You'll need a solid steering guibo too.

Here is a pic of my manifold with mods and also it fitted. By the way, they sound absolutely awesome. Real M3 rasp to it.

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Can you see where the red bulkhead has been smacked in just to the right of the steering column bush?
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This was it fitted to the M50 i initially used
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Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:49 pm

Looking at my steering shaft and the proximity to the manifold, I don't think you'll get away with using the solid steering guibo, you'll probably have to get 2 shafts tigged & sleeved like mine or buy one for a kit car like from www.carbuildersolutions.co.uk

The other option is to re-route primary number 6 to follow a path parallel to how the others go.
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Post Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:22 pm

Thanks for the reply. As far as i know all the problems are trying to make this fit if you dont cut and weld for number 6 clearance for the steering. I believe we are just going to treat it the same as a standard exhaust and cut the sh@t out of it until it fits :mad:

Hopefully Tony will be along in a bit to confirm it as i dont want any extra work. Just want to get it fitted and spank its monkey. :evil:

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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:50 am

It will need a fair amount of bodging to fit. I considered getting some standard s50 manifolds and bodging them together but then couldnt be bothered when i saw the price of the standard manifolds compared to the price of the m52 manifolds!

This is a picture from jamez's s50 track car, i hope he doesnt mind me copying the picture here but i reckon it could help you a little bit. Its modded slightly differently from lee's manifold above

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I'd love to hear it with the s50 manifolds on though! winkeye
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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:46 pm

Hi themills I have sent you a PM
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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:07 pm

Cook318IS wrote:It will need a fair amount of bodging to fit. I considered getting some standard s50 manifolds and bodging them together but then couldnt be bothered when i saw the price of the standard manifolds compared to the price of the m52 manifolds!



I'd love to hear it with the s50 manifolds on though! winkeye
Whats the difference of standard s50 manifolds and evo manifolds and m52 manifolds?

What about the prices? were they too much money for the amount of work?

Thanks for the pic though. i think that will help.

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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:08 pm

Baurluvva wrote:Hi themills I have sent you a PM
and back.

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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:12 pm

i dont know if there is a difference between the evo and s50 manifolds, but the m52 manifolds are vastly different this is my ones before they have to be chopped down.

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The price for standard s50 manifolds was about £150 when i was looking, m52 manifolds are about £40ish. You can buy stainless steel s50 manifolds that are already modifed to fit an m50/s50 in an e30. The fritzs bits one is about £700+vat and the btb one is alot more expensive.
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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:21 pm

wow, they are different. There just like the standard cast ones on my e36 325i.

These m3 evo/s50 ones are more like the old janspeed 4 into 1 manifolds i remember from years back :P

I can see now why they would sound better and hopefully improve performance.

Just waiting to hear from Eko to confirm all is good and im on my way. :wink:

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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:25 pm

I've heard the full fritzs s50 stainless system on random daves m52 - its sounds sexual, there is no other word for it. I'll eventually fork out the £1100 for the full system, but i'd love to hear yours with the chopped standard s50 manifolds.
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Post Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:50 pm

Millsy ive sent you a PM.
To be honest I havent a clue of the best way of getting the S50 manifold to fit,think its a case of removing a section or all of the number 6 primary and getting the manifold in place......goe from there :?: :o:
Its just something we`d have to work out when it comes to it!
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