B7's C2.7 Build - FINITO!!!!!!

[Simon13]

i've looked everywhere and i can't believe i haven't got a picture of an M20 on the engine stand timed up!

[B7]

i've looked everywhere and i can't believe i haven't got a picture of an M20 on the engine stand timed up!

If you look at my photo, the crank mark isn't quite on the mark. If you rotated that to line up, the rotor I reckon would be at somewhere between 9 and 10 oclock. EXACTLY opposite to where you reckon yours was yesterday

[Simon13]

we going over tonight then?!

[B7]

we going over tonight then?!

Too late. Been on the Pimms dear boy

Tomorrow?

[bigbhpwannabe]

It can still be 180 out with all the mrks lined up , easy way to check is to reverse the plug leeds.

1-6
2-5
3-4

sumpcracker is bang on here i recon .
i cant belive that you have not tryed swapin the leads ,for the sake of a few mins the problem could be found ,
he has even written what leads to swap !

Because the car is 20 odd miles away!

bummer

[Simon13]

what time mush?

[fowler]

is this still an issue ladies ????

[B7]

what time mush?

I'll bell you tomorrow. In a meeting from about 8 to 2 then a call at 4. Should be over there by 7? Any good to ya?

[fowler]

trev if you get stuck iam free wednesday PM

[adit]

so are you going to amend the thread title now then? fibber!

[Gortour]

Did I miss the reason for all the fuel in the sump?

[B7]

Did I miss the reason for all the fuel in the sump?

I think purely due to the fact it was fuelling the correct pots but firing on the wrong one. The only place for it to go is down.

I'm saying all this, we don't really know if we've sussed it yet.

Ben, I'll be in touch mate if I need it torching......sorry if things still don't run. Cheers mate

[josh-hocking]

news???? all fingers crossed for you...

[Simon13]

[B7]

OOOOOOHHHHH YES!!!!! She runs.

Cam timing was spot on as well. It was not 180 deg out! Lets have a competition to see whether anyone can gueass what it was. And Barry and Peter need not apply as they are already up to speed.

But once we found the issue, she barely saw the starter and it fired straight up, coolant bled a peice of p1ss and we actually spun her round the block (albeit with no bonnet )

Seemed to have a slight hesitation between 3500 to 4500 RPM (I didn't push it too hard) where it seemed to want to hold back but it's booked in with Barry for an MOT Saturday at 12 so we can check themixture then as it seems fuel related.

Well happy and I'd like to thank everyone for their inputs. This Forum has to be the best in the land for assistance and support. But most of all I'd like to publically thank Simon for his endless help and the fact he's driven more times to Epsom to help me with this. Cheers mate, it's very appreciated.

[toby]

Fuel pipes on the wrong way round?

Congratulations on getting it started...

You must be over the moon!

[Simon13]

Nope Toby! Neer a problem Trevor!

Put it this way i don't have to eat my hat i'm not a total numpty. Our reputations have taken a hammering over this one!

[toby]

Damn, I thought that was too easy - no insult to your installation/checking skills by the way - but I did think it would be something simple that you would sort out. Just glad Trev didn't throw the engine out and stick another in.

Really interested to see how this is after it is run in.

[e30topless]

Fantastic news really happy for you


nothing more frustrating than lots of work put into a build that won't start

so..spill the beans what was it ?

[B7]

Oh B0ll0cks, I'll tell you anyway I'm so happy.

No Toby not the fuel pipes. It was ignition related.

I got over there, started work on it and had the engine at TDC with the cam cover off the plugs out and the dis cover off. And the rotor arm was no where near number six as I'd suspected. Nor was it on No. 1 either. Si turns up and we scratch our heads. It was actually pointing to the next plug lead around from No.1. So we checked the cam timing via the marks. Absolutely spot on! F*cking wierd we thinks. So I take the rotor arm off and removed the cam wheel torx bolt. Immediately we spotted this:



Whats happened is that as I've torqued up the bolt while the engines on the stand, I've not noticed that the black plastic rotor mount disc has slipped from it's locating dowel, rotated a touch then relocated it'self by punching another locating hole! See where the metal locating key has re imbedded it'self on the centre metal bit.

And there you have it. Thats all it was. Lesson learned boys and girls.

[e30topless]

i would never had suspected that !! exellent find chaps

now get it fuelled up and enjoy

[toby]

Hardly a costly fix either - bonus!

[SPADGE]

Numptys

[The_Diddler]

Fantastic news Trevor, well done to everybody, at last its runs.

I hope this chariot graces gaydon now

[EThreezero]

Fook me man who knew? just shows ye! some folk might never have noticed that and been head scratching and engine strippin for months!!! well done, over the moon for ye fella

[Blitz]

Great news.

[fowler]

if it was on wasted you would not have this problem
glad you found the problem trev SI great work chaps
hope fully see it soon are you gents doing Gaydon this year ??????

[bss325i]

Guildford to i hope!

[powelly]

Congratulations chaps, I know this has caused some real heartache, hope to see this beast very soon. I thought it would be something silly, always is, even if it's not always obvious.

[bigbhpwannabe]

great news after takein a picture yesterday of my cam timing and lookin at it side by side with yours i did wonder why the cam timeing marks on both cams were right but the rotor arm looked about 40* out

[winx]

extralente!! Shame Simon doesnt have to eat his hat as I would have enjoyed it but chuffed for Trev!
Looking forward to seeing it on Wednesday night

[E30Gheko]

Hooray!! At last. I'm very pleased for you! Great work all of those that helped.

[B7]

MATE! you gotta get that tin of Gunk out man!!!!

[bigbhpwannabe]

MATE! you gotta get that tin of Gunk out man!!!!

haha ,thats nothing you should see the state of the rest of the engine bay haha
i seen that u love a clean engine bay after readin your thread
http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79639

[adit]

so does this mean i won't get your 2.7 bottom end now then?

brilliant news Trev, well done boys