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da4x4turbo wrote:I raced a vivaro on the motorway once in a 318is.... and lost!!!
Not quite!d6dph wrote:Alright Grandad! What are you now Barry, 30?bss325i wrote:Terrible running costs? I take it your a youth?pac1982 wrote:I didnt buy an E30 for speed matey or claim my IS was really fast, i got it becuase of the way it looked, the main reason i dont own a 2.5 is down to the fact that for what it costs to run the performance is terrible, if i was after a performance car id have something else.
The only thing i'm after in a car these days is retro cool
I must get out one day and come play again, it's a little quicker now than it was in that vid, 9psi is now 17psid6dph wrote:e30_Turbo wrote:I hate Type R's, back in the n/a days they were the worst car to race, oooops, I mean overtake at speed, they seemed to have 5mph more in each gear and that was in a good B25, how you 'did' one in a 'is' is amazing, I'm stunned.
My foreman had a 03 Type R and we used to have it everynight along the long slip road and I didn't ever get near to passing him and if I gained it was cos I had better traction of the roundabout. he then bought a 05 prodrive WRX and that wasn't much of a race although these days he doesn't race anymore since he gets a proper twatting these days
uptodate subaru WRX prodrive vs 20yr old e30 with boost.....
Go back to Japan MOFO!
I need to go out in that beastie dude!
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No I’m 27 when I say terrible running costs I don’t mean I cant afford it I mean that for what it would cost me to run a 2.5 I’d rather run something else that more justifies the cost.bss325i wrote:Terrible running costs? I take it your a youth?pac1982 wrote:I didnt buy an E30 for speed matey or claim my IS was really fast, i got it becuase of the way it looked, the main reason i dont own a 2.5 is down to the fact that for what it costs to run the performance is terrible, if i was after a performance car id have something else.
The only thing i'm after in a car these days is retro cool
that's why I drive the fastest iS in the weest - yeee haaaa 35mpg most days & 38mpg when I'm holding up traffic up hills, I do like an iS, plus it looks sexual..pac1982 wrote:No I’m 27 when I say terrible running costs I don’t mean I cant afford it I mean that for what it would cost me to run a 2.5 I’d rather run something else that more justifies the cost.bss325i wrote:Terrible running costs? I take it your a youth?pac1982 wrote:I didnt buy an E30 for speed matey or claim my IS was really fast, i got it becuase of the way it looked, the main reason i dont own a 2.5 is down to the fact that for what it costs to run the performance is terrible, if i was after a performance car id have something else.
The only thing i'm after in a car these days is retro cool
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Well i'm going on the fact that my average MPG in my E36 325 was 18 so in an E30 with an old engine this must be worse, i know some people on here claim to get around 35 from there E30 2.5 but that must be some very boring driving.
I think my 318IS is getting around 40-45mpg but thats just a guesstimate
I think my 318IS is getting around 40-45mpg but thats just a guesstimate

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+1bramley wrote:
OP - It's not for me to tell you how to drive, and for all I know you were mindful of blind corners, other traffic, stopping distances etc etc. I just hope the above story might make you and others think a little bit differently about "racing" other cars on the road. The faster car on the road, in my experience, is the car whose driver is prepared to take greater risks.
I had my future wife in the car, how could I be so stupid to put her life, my life, and other peoples lives at risk just because I wanted to be Billy Big Balls and prove I could drive faster than someone else? What if it was my car that left the road? What if the MR2 driver died?
I'm not here to patronize people, I enjoy driving quickly just like the next man. Not surprisingly the events on that day made me think very carefully about how I drive, and now if I want to "race" someone I do it on a track.
These "which is faster" and "who'd win in this race" threads annoy the s**t out of me.
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Jon_Bmw wrote:Check, another delusional iS owner.
E30 M3 Unichip Alpha N style conversions, this is the ultimate for extracting the best out of your S14 M power car.
Also, Live mapping of your Standard Motronic ECU for optimising all your modifications.
www.sabre-tuning.co.uk
Also, Live mapping of your Standard Motronic ECU for optimising all your modifications.
www.sabre-tuning.co.uk
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thats the whole point in buying a car and tuning it . i spent £10 grand making my touring fast.i didnt do that to potter to the shops at 30mph. i like to know what sort of cars it is a match for and what level of cars to aim for.da4x4turbo wrote:+1bramley wrote:
OP - It's not for me to tell you how to drive, and for all I know you were mindful of blind corners, other traffic, stopping distances etc etc. I just hope the above story might make you and others think a little bit differently about "racing" other cars on the road. The faster car on the road, in my experience, is the car whose driver is prepared to take greater risks.
I had my future wife in the car, how could I be so stupid to put her life, my life, and other peoples lives at risk just because I wanted to be Billy Big Balls and prove I could drive faster than someone else? What if it was my car that left the road? What if the MR2 driver died?
I'm not here to patronize people, I enjoy driving quickly just like the next man. Not surprisingly the events on that day made me think very carefully about how I drive, and now if I want to "race" someone I do it on a track.
These "which is faster" and "who'd win in this race" threads annoy the s**t out of me.
unfettled they're nothing to scream about, but fettled, and the m42 does all the screaming, it flies my man.. with all the useless seats and carpets, and heavy bits left at home, it is truly rapid. I'm not dillusional. They're not a fast fast car, but for what it is, it keeps me v.happyShepsEvo3 wrote:Jon_Bmw wrote:Check, another delusional iS owner.
18mpg?! Something was not right with that as an M50B25 should do low thirtys with ease!pac1982 wrote:Well i'm going on the fact that my average MPG in my E36 325 was 18 so in an E30 with an old engine this must be worse, i know some people on here claim to get around 35 from there E30 2.5 but that must be some very boring driving.
I think my 318IS is getting around 40-45mpg but thats just a guesstimate
The best i've had out of my M20B25 is 27mpg.
There is no way an M42B18 will do anything in the 40's, no way!
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I did say it was a guesstimate i;ve not had the car long enough to do a real MPG test, all i know is that its good on juice and £25 will get me to work and back all weekbss325i wrote:18mpg?! Something was not right with that as an M50B25 should do low thirtys with ease!pac1982 wrote:Well i'm going on the fact that my average MPG in my E36 325 was 18 so in an E30 with an old engine this must be worse, i know some people on here claim to get around 35 from there E30 2.5 but that must be some very boring driving.
I think my 318IS is getting around 40-45mpg but thats just a guesstimate
The best i've had out of my M20B25 is 27mpg.
There is no way an M42B18 will do anything in the 40's, no way!
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The only point in modifying a car to increase power is so you can go out and race on the streets?fuzzy wrote:thats the whole point in buying a car and tuning it . i spent £10 grand making my touring fast.i didnt do that to potter to the shops at 30mph. i like to know what sort of cars it is a match for and what level of cars to aim for.da4x4turbo wrote:
+1
These "which is faster" and "who'd win in this race" threads annoy the s**t out of me.
Has just having loads of power on tap for when you feel like going out for a blast when conditions and traffic allow not got anything to do with it?
Or perhaps if you plan on occasionally tracking it?
I personally think that street racing is abhorrent. The risks to oneself and innocent bystanders is too high.
It's one thing to take your car and wring the s**t out of it on a deserted road in the dead of night. Or to hammer along a motorway.
It's quite another thing to race on a public highway for some sort of perceived "glory" !
People who do that deserve jail terms, not just disqualification and fines. As far as I'm concerned if a fatality resulted it should be classed as first degree murder.
A car is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands.
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Barry, there is no point trying to tell these dellusional fools how slow their chariots are. After this weekend we know exactly what happens when you have 3 similar chariots together with the 3 popular engines.
Bollocks to this 24v scrap!
For me I worked my way up from a m10 318i to my Alpina. I've never gone for the power but more for the feeling the package gives me. I love the sound of the Alpina engine and even though it goes like stink ( even by todays standards ) I know I am a very nervious behind the wheel so never try to race on twisty stuff. Last time a span I even ran march109 for advice LOL.
What I'm getting at is you can have a fast car for the simple pleasure of owning it.
What I'm getting at is you can have a fast car for the simple pleasure of owning it.
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I think the blatant observation here is that some and I stress some of the 6 pot BMW owners must feel insecure about something whether it be themselves or the vehicle in question so that they need a 6 pot almost like a small child needs a security blanket.


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I have both 4 and 6 pot varients.. why? because they are the best ones to own, and because I can.pac1982 wrote:I think the blatant observation here is that some and I stress some of the 6 pot BMW owners must feel insecure about something whether it be themselves or the vehicle in question so that they need a 6 pot almost like a small child needs a security blanket.
Bollocks to this 24v scrap!
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and I think that the is Owners have a serious dose of the small man syndrome.pac1982 wrote:I think the blatant observation here is that some and I stress some of the 6 pot BMW owners must feel insecure about something whether it be themselves or the vehicle in question so that they need a 6 pot almost like a small child needs a security blanket.
Constantly trying to say that they're "baby M3's" can compare to a 325i.... I've had fifteen 318is's and only three 325i's. I can honestly say that the 325i is a better car in every way.
It's only at this point in my life though that I can easily afford to own and run a 325i though. I previously also suffered from the little man symptom and tried to fight the 318is's corner all the time.
Needless to say once I could afford a 325i the 318is was a distant memory and it will stay that way.
BMW aren't famous for their 4-pots. They just happen to make them for people who can't afford their glorious 6-pots.
I rest my case..... having previously been one of these 318is "little boys"
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I don't have to prove myself to anyone matey. You have small man syndrome. I had a 318is once.. but same as above.. I bought a 6 pot and well unless it's special a 4 pot e30 is only worth breakingpac1982 wrote:See there’s that I have to prove myself attitude again, tut tut Mr BobBob_S wrote:I have both 4 and 6 pot varients.. why? because they are the best ones to own, and because I can.
Bollocks to this 24v scrap!
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Ha Ha, I just nearly fell off the seat laughing !!!Bob_S wrote: I bought a 6 pot and well unless it's special a 4 pot e30 is only worth breaking
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Actually fair play to Bob. People too often belittle one set of owner that are not in their pot group. He mearly sticks 2 fingers up and has the v5 of both types and I dare someone to put an IS over an M3! LOL bravo Mr Bob!
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Why do I have small man syndrome? I’ve never said my car was any better than a 325? Infact I know the 325 is a better car than the IS where does little man come in to it?Bob_S wrote:I don't have to prove myself to anyone matey. You have small man syndrome. I had a 318is once.. but same as above.. I bought a 6 pot and well unless it's special a 4 pot e30 is only worth breakingpac1982 wrote:See there’s that I have to prove myself attitude again, tut tut Mr BobBob_S wrote:I have both 4 and 6 pot varients.. why? because they are the best ones to own, and because I can.
Its all the hate I don’t understand?? You never get IS owners literally hating on a 325
In fact matey if you must know one of my other rides is a 170cc Lambretta don’t really think id ride a scooter or any small motorbike for that matter if I have small man syndrome!
Checkmate!
Lets not make ourselves look like little boys and have an argument on the internet now hay
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WHAT??? Yes you do......perhaps you're subscribed to another forum somewhere and have gotten mixed up! They're constantly at it. Bleating on about how their baby M3's have this many horsepower and get to 60 this quickly and can go faster with a chip and can do the 0-60 run in 2nd if.....pac1982 wrote: Its all the hate I don’t understand?? You never get IS owners literally hating on a 325
Oh and the 318is bodyshell is galvanised from the factory and it's lighter than a 325i
You're fighting a losing battle here 2Pac. Maybe you should go out "hittin them corners in them low lows girls" in your 318is/Lambretta and leave this flogged to death topic alone.
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Actually I take it all back. Maybe you're just gay...? Hay...!pac1982 wrote:
In fact matey if you must know one of my other rides is a 170cc Lambretta don’t really think id ride a scooter or any small motorbike for that matter if I have small man syndrome!
Checkmate!
Lets not make ourselves look like little boys and have an argument on the internet now hay
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You know that’s cod shite matey and besides its an internet forum about E30’s surely the whole point of this place is to talk about your cars and find out that your car is infact not galvanized does not have an LSD and is actually nothing like an M3da4x4turbo wrote:WHAT??? Yes you do......perhaps you're subscribed to another forum somewhere and have gotten mixed up! They're constantly at it. Bleating on about how their baby M3's have this many horsepower and get to 60 this quickly and can go faster with a chip and can do the 0-60 run in 2nd if.....pac1982 wrote: Its all the hate I don’t understand?? You never get IS owners literally hating on a 325
Oh and the 318is bodyshell is galvanised from the factory and it's lighter than a 325i
You're fighting a losing battle here 2Pac. Maybe you should go out "hittin them corners in them low lows girls" in your 318is/Lambretta and leave this flogged to death topic alone.
By the way those hip hop and 2pac references you just made don’t really work matey I’m called pac because my second name is Packer and because of that the nick name of Pac or Pac man came about
My round again I do believe!
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Ahem..... You're avatar would tell a different story mate. It's very..... "bling bling!"pac1982 wrote: By the way those hip hop and 2pac references you just made don’t really work matey I’m called pac because my second name is Packer and because of that the nick name of Pac or Pac man came about
My round again I do believe!
nice that you've assigned some sort of rounds system to this thread too. In which you can become a self proclaimed "winner"..... Good for you !!!
I'm only having a laugh though mate. No reall offence intended !
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Pulling out all the stops here! its like being back at schoolda4x4turbo wrote:Actually I take it all back. Maybe you're just gay...? Hay...!
And for your information no i'm not gay it just so happens the birds love the new lammy heres a few pics of our model on one of the new Lambretta Patos that we sell


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pac1982 wrote:I’m called pac because my second name is Packer and because of that the nick name of Pac or Pac man came about
What's your first name...? Fudge.... !
"Ding Ding" Round over. I've had enough of playing on the internet. Night mate.
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whaay not heard that one in a few years!da4x4turbo wrote:pac1982 wrote:I’m called pac because my second name is Packer and because of that the nick name of Pac or Pac man came about
What's your first name...? Fudge.... !
"Ding Ding" Round over. I've had enough of playing on the internet. Night mate.
You can’t tell me you don’t find low riders cool and there roots actually have nothing to do with hip hop
You may be messing around but you still came in with a few low blows although it don’t bother me.
To be honest I could do this for a few days but if lively banter like this ever gets out of hand I just stop replying.
It’s good to get a quick rise of certain people every now and again!



