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Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:31 pm

ohh all good then, keep it on the road mate!! looks sweet to me!
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Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:34 pm

m4xos wrote:ohh all good then, keep it on the road mate!! looks sweet to me!
thanks I hope to get the summer out of it (including gaydon :D )

then a resto over winter
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Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:44 pm

nice car steve. looks similar to the later "design" convertible colour. as si said, get some hartge alloys, plus 4-spoke steering wheel, etc. and you're away! :wink:
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:snigger: is that an official bmw manufacturers recommended method dan? winkeye
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adit wrote:nice car steve. looks similar to the later "design" convertible colour. as si said, get some hartge alloys, plus 4-spoke steering wheel, etc. and you're away! :wink:
thanks adi :)
I have a neon green cabby parked next to it and it is a totally different colour, I will post a pic of the 2 parked up together


I am searching for alloys at the moment but not having much luck :(
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:33 am

try iain (HartgeH27). i'm sure he has some for sale mate :wink:
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Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:01 am

nice!! i saw that on pistonheads the other day! thought it was cheap!!
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adit wrote:try iain (HartgeH27). i'm sure he has some for sale mate :wink:
I had a good chat with Iain tonight and got Lots and Lots of info :)

it seems to be an origional Hartge, a H26 to be precise , 20 bhp over a b2.5 will do nicely :)

I hope to get it down on the ramps this weekend and have a good look around underneath :)
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:23 am

less talk more pictures!
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Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:35 pm

You could also look on the cylinderhead above the inlet runners of the 3 first cylinders, if hartge modded the head what type of head will be engraved in the metal there.
Why is there not enough time to do it right, but allways enough time to fix the errors - I borrowed that, just so reallistic in my line of work.
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H35-24 wrote:You could also look on the cylinderhead above the inlet runners of the 3 first cylinders, if hartge modded the head what type of head will be engraved in the metal there.

True if converted in Germany but not true if done in England by Birds UK.

There where no external distinguishing marks on the Hartge engines converted by Birds.

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ok a bit more research done today,

there are Hartge shocks,anti roll bars and possibly springs fitted but no LSD

I now believe it is not an origional Hartge as i first suspected but a replica built years ago using origional Hartge parts

I think this car started life as a 318 :?

the mountings for the M20 airflow meter and relays are pop riveted on !
the battery tray is very rotten which continues down the bulkhead all the way down the back of the pedals,
this makes me think the battery in boot kit was added on when it was converted to how it is now.

all the goodies and will be removed and a re-shell will begin if I find the right donor car. hopefully in white or red.
I have the chance of a solid 2 door Bronzit beige but somehow I don't think it will look right :o:

I could be making a H26 replica from a H26 replica :eek: is that worse than a birmingham sport ?
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Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:29 pm

no as it's original tuning parts which always deliver the results. No one will ever take the piss out of a modded 325 loaded with hartge bits
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Simon13 wrote:no as it's original tuning parts which always deliver the results. No one will ever take the pee pee out of a modded 325 loaded with hartge bits

Absoulfookinlutly :D
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VIN check reveal a 318 base car then?
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Simon13 wrote:VIN check reveal a 318 base car then?
haven't done a VIN check where would i do that ?

I am pretty sure the base car is a 316/8 the relay bracket has been pop riveted on and the AFM bracket has too they are also a different colour ! (these are not the same as the m20 fitment)

also there are 3 petrol pipes together as in the 316/8 (one should go to a cannister thing ? )


from past experience converting donks to M20 these are the only mods needed on the body under the bonnet
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Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:29 pm

had a bit of good luck today :D

I heard about a brilliantrot 2 door 316 that might be for sale so i went with another zoner (sweep) to check it out,

we went all over it turns out to be absolutely solid in everyway not a single rust bubble in sight

the paintwork is exellent and a very reasonable price ..result :D

it is perfect for the resto I am wanting to do it I hope to have it over to my place by the weekend 8)
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Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:26 am

crazy guy!! red will defo look better than white imo al pop up during the week wiv sum better pics lol :D
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Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:38 am

great news steve, cant wait to see it all done :D
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What are the last 7 digits of the chassis number?

Also looks like you have a chassis number sticker on the ECU, what is the number?

Run these numbers through http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do?kind=P&arch=1 and it will tell you the origin of the car / cars.
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Fri May 01, 2009 2:54 pm

thanks e30mark

comes back as a 07/1989 E30 325i 2 doors M20 Europe Right hand drive Manual

Production Code: 1112 will try the ecu number when i have it to hand
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Fri May 01, 2009 4:45 pm

Nice project, I remember looking at it on fleabay. Should look nice in red, good luck :D
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the donor car arrived tonight it is rock solid everywhere but a lovely shade of pink ! :o:

the green snot rocket is well and struly stripped, the rust i have found is unbelieveable :eek:

just wish i had a bigger garage

I bought Hartge stripes from ebay but struggling with the seller, wish i spoke/could read german better :( anyone know where i could get some from ?

will update pics tommorow
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Dude i bought some Hartge strips from Germany, proper ones too :cool:
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did you use ebay or another source ?
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Sat May 09, 2009 12:18 am

ma dads got a place now steve got two ramps in there too
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It must have came from Cowies, now named Preston hall think it was called mill at one point too :mad:
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Alex wrote:Darlington Registerd car

It must have came from Cowies, now named Preston hall think it was called mill at one point too :mad:
I got it from newcastle alex I think it was from Cowies origionally
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:cool: i do like the colour too :o:
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Alex wrote::cool: i do like the colour too :o:
I really liked the green colour but it wasn't to be..the rust is unbelievable !

I have found a guy in germany who is breaking a H26 :)

bought many parts from him.
another strut bace another rocker cover :roll: Hartge shocks the H26 badge :rock: and a H26 head
I also managed to get some Hartge stripes

fitted the interior this weekend and a full T-cut and wax,

will start on the suspension/rear disc brake set up and oily bits next weekend

still not sure on grey Leather in a red car :?

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Grey leather in a red car is well 80s - just like an e30 really! I reckon it looks cool.
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