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Ok, at last i got some time for my cabrio.

Took the engine out and made all kinds of little things. Hopefully i'll get exhaust manifolds and exhaust piping properly welded this weekend and couple more things done so i can test all stuff together once more before painting and final engine bay weldings.

Took some pics, can be found here.


And here's demonstrating picture-series of "how to take monster engine out of E30" :cool:

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Those manifolds are awesome!!
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Clearance between rocker and strut is negligible! B uggar all in any case!

Notice: No room on the bulkhead for any type of braking system, unless you're mounting a pedal box to it.
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Yea, no extra space anywhere:

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Reserved a time for painter in the end of this month so i'll start putting it all together on easter holidays :)

Lots of things to do before the painter, though.
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That is a beast 8O , going to be awesome once finished :cool:
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What are you using for mounts? My sump's not even close to the subframe!
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:51 pm

oze30 wrote:What are you using for mounts? My sump's not even close to the subframe!
E34 V8 mounts and 10mm spacer (total height should be around 75mm). E39 525tds mounts would've been plug'n'play in E30 subframe and 75mm in height. That i learned later :(

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Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:28 pm

And Jonsku's setup uses subframe spacers as well, which might explain the subtantial difference in height between your V8 conversions.

Edit: seems like botf of you use subframe spacers. It probably comes down to the mounts then.
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Frenchguy wrote:And Jonsku's setup uses subframe spacers as well, which might explain the subtantial difference in height between your V8 conversions.

Edit: seems like botf of you use subframe spacers. It probably comes down to the mounts then.
He has less clearance than mine when I didn't have spacers. I'll get some pics later.
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Jonsku wrote:
oze30 wrote:What are you using for mounts? My sump's not even close to the subframe!
E34 V8 mounts and 10mm spacer (total height should be around 75mm). E39 525tds mounts would've been plug'n'play in E30 subframe and 75mm in height. That i learned later :(
hmm nearly bought the standard mounts last week, i might check out those 525 ones instead as i'll be using subframe spacers like jonsku
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Yes the E39 ones look good: http://wp1016621.wp027.webpack.hosteuro ... f01766.htm

The subframe spacer doesn't affect the needed mount height.


Anyways, i got all the weldings done in the engine bay today and did some priming. In the weekend i hopefully have time and the exhaust manifolds back to put it all together last time before painter.
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Ok, back in bisnes.

Got the cabrio back from painter today :) Also i've bought "all" the needed parts so nothing more to do than put it all together again 8)

Added some pictures here.
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One of my favourite cabby's on the Zone, absolutely stunning :cool:

Look's as well as power 8)
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ImysE30 wrote:One of my favourite cabby's on the Zone, absolutely stunning :cool:

Look's as well as power 8)

It,s my favourite Cab full stop.
Did question Jonsku,s sanity when he decided to rip the original
apart, but his attention to detail and workmanship is stunning.
Can only look on in awe and admiration, Jonsku.
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Too true gooner1, can't wait to see the finished article :D
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Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:21 am

Thank you :)


I'm a bit unhappy with the brake discs (the black passivation didn't succeed as expected) but that was kind of an experiment. Well, next i've to bore new holes to the discs and see whether i can reinforce them a bit..
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What's your brake setup?
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Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:04 pm

It's nice to see this project nearing completion. Keep up the good work!
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Finally, after couple of hours the engine is in! :cool:

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The brake lines in the picture taken 9. day aren't ready, now they go straight and nice :)

oze30 wrote:What's your brake setup?
E34 540 master cylinder, booster and calipers.
Audi 312x25 front discs
BMW 294x19 rear discs
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What are the rear discs from?
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oze30 wrote:What are the rear discs from?
E46 328, you can see all the measurements on www.sebro.de ;)
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You going 5 stud?
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oze30 wrote:You going 5 stud?
Noup, gonna redrill the discs. That might be a problem but we'll see. If i don't get them done properly i'll buy expensive 4x100 discs on www.300mm.de


Damn, tried the clutch yesterday and realised it doesn't work so (i measured the clutch and thought it'd work without the spacer but no, it won't) so i'll have to pull the whole package out once more. :cry:

Well, maybe this is lesson learned..
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what spacer are you using and why? I'm using the standard E30 clutch master and the E34 slave. Nothing wrong with this setup.
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oze30 wrote:what spacer are you using and why? I'm using the standard E30 clutch master and the E34 slave. Nothing wrong with this setup.
Yes but because i've new flywheel the total height is about 12-15mm less than original setup so i've to use spacer between the clutch fork and pressure bearing.

Anyways, i pulled the engine out yesterday with help of couple friends and putted all back again so now it's working fine :)
Driveshaft, water pump etc are also bolted on so next i've to bolt dashboard etc interior things.. :)
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alright

having trouble with my brakes as i cant get the left hand drive 540 master here, wondering if i can use master with no servo,

is your ecu going to live under the dash or in a box i engine bay like the 540?

whats the stuff in the battery tray? abs?

anyway i digress, which fuel pump are you using?

looking very good by the way,
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You can, but pedal feel is really bad as well as effort. I'm thinking of going to custom mounted pedals ie: top/floor mount to be able to adjust the pedal ratio. I'm using a twin M/C with no servo and it's alot of effort for not much braking! I mounted my ECU in the engine bay under the cover from an E34. Suits it better, but might need to make it more solidly mounted.

I'm guessing his battery tray has his ABS setup.
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citizensnips wrote:having trouble with my brakes as i cant get the left hand drive 540 master here, wondering if i can use master with no servo
Yes you could but i see no sense in that kind of setup unless you're building strictly race car.
is your ecu going to live under the dash or in a box i engine bay like the 540?

whats the stuff in the battery tray? abs?
ABS pump, siren for alarm, power distribution box.

I built a place for ECU and relays on the original mounting location, the wires are really close being long enough. :)
anyway i digress, which fuel pump are you using?

looking very good by the way,
Thanks :cool:

I bought Walbro fuel pump, good enough to +500hp so i guess it'll be enough for this setup :)
Friend of mine is using original in-tank fuel pump in his E30 V8 so that's one option too but my fuel pump was in such a bad condition that i decided to replace it with something more powerful.
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Yeah, it's alive again! :)

Video here. Still quite a lot of finishing to do but damn, the summer can start in few weeks. :cool:
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:cool: the sound ! :bow:
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WOW, awesome sound, keep it goin :cool: :cool:
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I want one!!!!!! :mad:
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Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:58 pm

Thanks for that Jonsku. :D

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Heheh, thank you :cool: It really sounds a bit wild but hopefully i get the exhaust on tomorrow :P
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