New M5

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:50 pm

on top gear now..!!!!
they showed a nice E30 in the studio and i got all exited..!!!!

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:01 pm

i want a 507hp m5 pleeeeaaaaaaaasssseeee.

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:03 pm

jigjags wrote:on top gear now..!!!!
they showed a nice E30 in the studio and i got all exited..!!!!

that was an e28 m5

just watched top gear and WOW ive never wanted a newer bmw, or any car, so much... in fact id rather have the m5 than the e46 csl!!

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:05 pm

I'd rather have an M6 - when they get arount to making one

But I'll take an M5 in the mean time :lol:

I really fancy one of those old M5's too

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:14 pm

yes. the black one was an e28. respect.

the new m5 is fantastic. really is. forget the new m6, its not right.

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:45 pm

i've seen a pic of a new M6 somewhere? cant recall where?

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:01 pm

M6 has the M5 lump and carbon roof and wings still wouldn't want to have a whack in one though.

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:06 pm

Karan wrote:
jigjags wrote:on top gear now..!!!!
they showed a nice E30 in the studio and i got all exited..!!!!
that was an e28 m5

just watched top gear and WOW ive never wanted a newer bmw, or any car, so much... in fact id rather have the m5 than the e46 csl!!

Yep e28 m5

I would have the e46 csl, less weight better handling etc
But its a close call

Now the M6...
Well that is an even closer call! Better looking, faster etc etc than the m5

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:06 pm

koos wrote:i've seen a pic of a new M6 somewhere? cant recall where?

Evo mag a couple of months back had a pic/article

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:07 pm

Martinaston wrote:M6 has the M5 lump and carbon roof and wings still wouldn't want to have a whack in one though.

Eh?
By whack I prsume you mean crash/stack/prang?

Why not? It's going to be a hell of a lot safer than an e30!

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:08 pm

soz ...e28 ...!!

nerds..!!

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:33 pm

Lordschleife
Have you seen a formula one car crash, they just explode all over the place.
If you crash on a public road (and at the speed the M6 goes) you normally don't just hit a crash barrier and stop you hit the kerb bounce off the oncoming car, take out a few trees and end up upside down in someones lounge.

I like the idea of a steel shell and always will.

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:39 pm

Martinaston wrote:Lordschleife
Have you seen a formula one car crash, they just explode all over the place.

Yes they're designed to do that to dissapate the energy of the crash

Martinaston wrote: If you crash on a public road (and at the speed the M6 goes) you normally don't just hit a crash barrier and stop you hit the kerb bounce off the oncoming car, take out a few trees and end up upside down in someones lounge.

And how is that any different to the speeds the M5 or many other cars will go?

Martinaston wrote: I like the idea of a steel shell and always will.

Err well CF should be lighter and stronger.
You can't compare the speeds F1 cars crash at to the speeds of regular every day driving.
I wouldn't hesitate to drive one.

Out of interest, what do you think of Lotus Elises?
Would you drive one of them with an aluminium bonded body?
(basically glued together)

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:46 pm

Nope
I think track cars should stay on the track.

You said
Yes they're designed to do that to dissapate the energy of the crash

I don't want to dissipate the energy of the crash because i wouldn't be wearing a five point harness, I'd want it built like a tank to go through wall's

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:27 pm

Martinaston wrote:Nope
I think track cars should stay on the track.

You said
Yes they're designed to do that to dissapate the energy of the crash

I don't want to dissipate the energy of the crash because i wouldn't be wearing a five point harness, I'd want it built like a tank to go through wall's

Then it'll transfer all the energy to you and you're squishy, easily bruisable internal organs
Not to mention basal skull fractures...

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:29 pm

Oh and the bonded aluminium shell of an elise is much stronger and more likely to stay intact than a welded steel shell.

Not trying to be harsh, or argumentative here, just provoke some thought/discussion

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:40 pm

il give my life to anyone who drops that v10 in an e30

it would be worth it

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:47 pm

318-is wrote:il give my life to anyone who drops that v10 in an e30

it would be worth it

Especially if they put it where the rear seats are!

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:57 pm

Nope it would only transfer all the energy to me if the car stopped, I want one so heavy you don't notice the small ford you just drove through :lol:

(the car not a river)

As for the bonded lotus that sounds like it would bounce around until your brain is scrambled.

Post Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:58 pm

Brother-in-law left Hockenheim an hour ago with a certain Renault V10 on board. Will that do? I could give him a call, and see if he'll divert.

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:02 am

Brian didn't you get an invite ?

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:04 am

Martinaston wrote:Nope it would only transfer all the energy to me if the car stopped, I want one so heavy you don't notice the small ford you just drove through
(the car not a river)

As for the bonded lotus that sounds like it would bounce around until your brain is scrambled.

If you have a car that heavy it'll handle like an oil tanker though, I can see where you;re coming from, but I'd rather my car be more on the fun side of things than the safe (not that I want an unsafe car)

After all you only live once, and I'd rather live a shorter fun/interesting life than a long boring one!

Lets see what the NCAP rating of the M6 is when it comes out eh?

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:05 am

what was that about a renault v10? not an f1 engine???

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:06 am

Don't generally like the look of it..nice car though. Would prefer to take the e28 for some spirited driving!

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:08 am

Martinaston wrote:Brian didn't you get an invite ?

No I didn't.
The bugger's been texting me all afternoon to wind me up!
Flies out to Hockenheim Saturday night, sees GP from F1 enclosure, packs up and drives to Hungary, flies home, flies back to Hungary next Saturday, sees GP again, and drives home, AND GETS PAID PLENTY.
Doesn't even like F1 particularly either.

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:11 am

lucky bugger. i quite like f1

what does he do for a living??? id love a job liek that!

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:12 am

Volvo have been sticking it to the NCAP mob according to todays Times,
saying they don't test as thoroughly as Volvo and the European manufacturers have been designing the cars just to get high scores for the tests.
Not sure if Volvo are realy concerned or there just blowing there own trumpet.

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:14 am

Brian if were you i'd hide his passport and hold it to ransom :lol:

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:16 am

Martinaston wrote:Volvo have been sticking it to the NCAP mob according to todays Times,
saying they don't test as thoroughly as Volvo and the European manufacturers have been designing the cars just to get high scores for the tests.
Not sure if Volvo are realy concerned or there just blowing there own trumpet.

Who knows, but at least NCAP gives us a bit of an idea.

Probably a bit of both of what you say at the end of the day.

Anyway an e30 wouldnt get any stars (though its strong for an 80s design) and I think an e36 only gets one!
Shows you how far safety has come

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:20 am

to be honest star ratings mean jack

if u crash at sixety on the motorway of get hit by a articualted truck if ur in a mini an e30 or a ferrari no matter what your probably goin to die

am i right or wrong?

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:20 am

I think when it comes to cars designed in the 80's safety is a total game of chance.

1. seatbelts
2. ???

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:25 am

lol! classic.

less safety features = less weight

As lordschleife rightfully quoted

"Weight is the enemy"

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:26 am

318-is wrote:
what does he do for a living??? id love a job liek that!

Anything and everything, and knows everybody worth knowing. Makes Arthur Daley (ask your dad ) look like an amateur.

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:26 am

318-is wrote:to be honest star ratings mean jack

if u crash at sixety on the motorway of get hit by a articualted truck if ur in a mini an e30 or a ferrari no matter what your probably goin to die

am i right or wrong?

Depends on the type of crash and luck too.
Yeah a lorry at that speed you probably dont have a good chance
I binned my 325i at 60-70mph in the wet - straight into a tree, walked out without a scratch, but I was lucky - hit on the passenger side.

I realised after though I probably would have been serioulsy injured or even dead if it had been eg. in my Honda CRX & was quite shaken for the next week (I'd crashed a car before at around 30-40 and walked away without even the slightest amount of shock or fear afterwards) It took me about a year before I had full confidence to drive on the limit again.

Post Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:30 am

Martinaston wrote:I think when it comes to cars designed in the 80's safety is a total game of chance.

1. seatbelts
2. ???

Quite but e30's are built a lot more robust than a lot of 80's cars
Which would you rather stack, a mid 80's ford escort or mid 80's e30?

Anyway, it concentrates the mind on driving and not making any mistakes
'must not crash! must not crash!'