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Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:59 pm

No way Dave it's all too much 8O

I've stripped the lump down for a inspection, crank looks nice should just need a polish, shells main+big ends ready for replacement but bad for 170k on the clock. Oil leaks everywhere! New seals required all round and immense amount of cleaning of parts

Pictures 2moro as i compose myself but as always the bills just gone up! :( :D

Bloody cars, i just had to look though. Engine will be more of a peach when done and ready for loads more miles. Heads off aswell i gave in to it! Interesting work by Alpina on the chambers also i can see
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:01 pm

Simon13 wrote:Heads off aswell i gave in to it! Interesting work by Alpina on the chambers also i can see
Good lad! :D

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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:05 pm

See, Told you. Now the head is off. Simon it's going to get expensive! :lol:
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:08 pm

I've gave in because it will make life 100% easier when it comes to doing the shells for the sake of a gasket,bolts and a good peek!

Barry no oversize valves :cry: but we kinda knew that, this just confirmed it though!
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:45 pm

Simon13 wrote:I've gave in because it will make life 100% easier when it comes to doing the shells for the sake of a gasket,bolts and a good peek!

Barry no oversize valves :cry: but we kinda knew that, this just confirmed it though!
Comustion chambers reshaped though right?
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:47 pm

yes fettled indeed! I'll take a picture in a mo
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:47 pm

Drop some in now? If you are spending and its apart.. :twisted:
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:48 pm

Drop what in now? Cam?
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:50 pm

Oversized valves.. I assume you will be getting the valve seats cut anyway..
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:50 pm

Bigger Valves?
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:56 pm

Jhonno wrote:Oversized valves.. I assume you will be getting the valve seats cut anyway..
I can't the moneys not there for all of that as much as i want to do it maybe. anyhow it had a TOTAL overhaul 40,000 ago on the top end. It all looks fine, i can't see/feel any visible wear on the cam and it doesn't smoke. Plus it's quiet when its running. I didn't touch the clearances on the tappets when i first bought it and serviced it.

I don't mind fixing repairing stuff but well, i'm sure theres a couple of ponies locked up in what needs doing.
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:04 pm

Maybe it had the original oversized valves replaced when it had a freshen up 40k ago?
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bss325i wrote:Maybe it had the original oversized valves replaced when it had a freshen up 40k ago?
You're a bad influence :teehee:
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:10 pm

The zone can spend your money sometimes if you let it!

If* they were overzie then if they replaced with a standard sive valve the seats would be too big no?
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for you barry

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Simon13 wrote:The can spend your money sometimes if you let it!

If* they were overzie then if they replaced with a standard sive valve the seats would be too big no?
Recut valve seats?
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:16 pm

this looks like it might turn into another resto if your not careful Si !!

some excellent work going on here on my fav zone tourer 8)

keep the piccys coming :)
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:34 am

Running rich on 2?!
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Jhonno wrote:Running rich on 2?!
Looks more like no.1 has had a bit of a clean up for the photos.

If it had bigger vlaves and was then returned to standard size vlaves, I would have thought the seat insets would have had to be changed as well or the valve would sit too deep in the head.
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:04 pm

Looking good Si, the interior looks the dogs now, very swav!! :cool:

As for the Engine I thought the bellhousing on my gearbox was a bit oily but yours it caked. For the oil leak at the front of the head, I'm sure I heard some one say that if you just nipped the head bolt at that point a little more that would do it?? Not sure if thats best tho...

Keep up the good work, I've still got his all to do!!lol. :mad: :D
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Jhonno wrote:Running rich on 2?!
Looks more like no.1 has had a bit of a clean up for the photos.

If it had bigger vlaves and was then returned to standard size vlaves, I would have thought the seat insets would have had to be changed as well or the valve would sit too deep in the head.
Doh! Wasn't paying attention..

If it had oversized valves it would still have them, as you wouldn't be able to re downsized the seats afaik
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:02 am

Well here we go next lot!

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Me cleaning off the crusty useless reminants of the sump gasket

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Nose bolt off and removing the cover

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Mayo left over from when the head cracked years ago 8O Theres still a bit in the sump!

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Interesting amount of shit caught by the oil pump filter!

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Crank out, my lord they are heavy these TD cranks

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in all it's glory

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This is the worst on the crank, main end no.2 Now i thought it was a score but a closer look has showed it's actually the coating off the shell and should polish off a treat

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No.1 main end cap shell, this is why i got into a flap!

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main end no.4 thrust washer one, nothing bad on this

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Couple of the big end cap shells. Worn

I've just got back from my dads and these are the measurements

Main ends are all exactly the same @ 59.97mm Standard shell size 60mm. So all is good here

Big ends vary between 44.983mm and 44.978mm, Standard shell size is 45mm

We are off the opinion this won't be needing a regrind and is raring to go still! My old man seems to think i may have caught this at just the right time as it could of got alot worse in the next few 10k or so......

I think we have saved major future dramas, happy bunny then
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:11 am

It pays to do these things when its out, especially at that mileage.
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:13 am

She's gonna f**king fly when this is rebuilt. Looking at a faster time at the pod this year folks lol
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:53 am

It cant be often theres 2 genuine C2.2.7's being built at the same time.
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Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:48 am

just been thinking i've got in my back passage a Cat cam 273/273 which is quite pokey with new rockers doing nothing?

Would liven it up a treat i expect?! could possibly throw the fuel and timing settings out a little though

What do we think?
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Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:01 pm

Simon13 wrote:just been thinking i've got in my back passage a Cat cam 273/273 which is quite pokey with new rockers doing nothing?

Would liven it up a treat i expect?! could possibly throw the fuel and timing settings out a little though

What do we think?
Have you thought about a plug and play MS system simon? Could be good to optimise your fuel and timin, unless you want to stay stock?
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Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:16 pm

i'd rather, if i had to go down that kind of route the unichip/Alpha N keeping it more stock looking and the benefits of the alpina motronic still
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Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:26 pm

it look completely stock bud, i have one in mine, all i had to do was change the maf for an air temp sensor and tps, and a coil pack.
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Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:43 pm

thing is you'll never map it to be as good or drivable as motronic or the piggy back route. Thats what bothers me about it all
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I think it would be rude not to stick the 273 cam in whilst it is apart Si..
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Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:56 pm

I've got some intersting photos on this. When I get a chance I'll post em up. Si and I have been squatting up on Alpina Specialness!!!
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B7 wrote:I've got some intersting photos on this. When I get a chance I'll post em up. Si and I have been squatting up on Alpina Specialness!!!
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Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:22 pm

Has Simon finished knitting his Alpina Cardigan yet Trev?
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I hear his anorak came ok..
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