Hartge H23

[adit]

i saw this car in the Ebay section so emailed the seller and went to have a look "in the flesh" today. my observations were thus:

seller: a decent pleasant chap, good communication

engine: as ebay pic but i couldn't "fire her up" as the seller said there was no battery available

interior: clean and tidy iS cloth checked interior with no obvious wear and tear in the usual places noticed, black headlining, the clock was missing, check control, speedo reading 185k iirc, broken n/s opening rear window catch, r/s/b retainers required.

bodywork: slightly rusty rear arches (surface rust rather than rot), bottoms of front wings rusty (need replacing really), rusted bootlid (needs replacing), o/s sill fairly rotten under skirt, n/s not too bad, floor pan looked ok as far as i could see.

exterior: paintwork (zinnober red (?) ) faded, but not beyond a good t-cutting. no sunroof.

wheels: genuine hartge, need slight refurb,. a couple of tyres needed.

in my opinion this car has to be saved not scrapped as it is a very rare E30 and we want as many a good variety on the zone as poss (opinions?), but it boils down to the usual ratio of time/money/effort expended against pride/value of the end product.

the b.i.n. price was £1500. he said he'd had an offer of £950 so far.

what do you think chaps?
if anyone is interested, then you are welcome to phone me about viewing it/questions, etc.

[stevotheevo]

any pics or link

[Cloud]

Perfect. Hartge, needs some attention (because we enjoy fixing them, even though we complain about it) and isn't too badly priced. Do check that it starts and drives first though.

[stevotheevo]

this one ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H23-Hartge-E30-Ra ... 240%3A1318

[adit]

the link is in the ebay section steve, sorry mate, don't know how to link it to here anyone please?

[Alex]

looks good deffo worth saving i think 1k would be a better price imo, but then again there aint many of these around

[adit]

that's the one!

[Alex]

adit you know you want it

[adit]

i need a quintuple garage first al! i wonder if i could shove spooks old hartge out of the way and park it round the corner, then just sling his cover over this one in his garage, he wouldn't notice for a while

[Theo]

I remember when this was for sale in essex a couple of years ago and one of the few bits of information I managed to extract from the moron selling it was that it doesn't have a dogleg gearbox, is this correct? I think the car used to have air conditioning as well, any bits of that left?

Did you check for an LSD? Did it have the Hartge 6 branch? What condition was the gearknob in?

[TavernGnome]

Someone go pick that up! If it was in the states it would already be in my procession.

[spook]

i need a quintuple garage first al! i wonder if i could shove spooks old hartge out of the way and park it round the corner, then just sling his cover over this one in his garage, he wouldn't notice for a while

When the engines out of the sport, and the sport is sent to the scrappy you can

[jbh]

must admit if this was closer to me i would be really tempted but its almost 500 miles from me it would be a long haul back with it on a trailer

[bmwsport]

If that is a genuine Hartge rear strutbrace please sell it to me if you buy the car
If i had space i'd buy this car without a doubt because even if it proved too be a complete shitter/uneconomical to repair you would still be able to get your ££££ back by just selling the bits and wheels...

[bss325i]

I would be tempted if i had the space.

Its always bad timing when things come up that i want!

[jbh]

I would be tempted if i had the space.

Its always bad timing when things come up that i want!

please say you wouldnt break it Barry ?

[bss325i]

I would be tempted if i had the space.

Its always bad timing when things come up that i want!

please say you wouldnt break it Barry ?

No no! If the shell needed to much work then i would reshell it.

[adit]

i need a quintuple garage first al! i wonder if i could shove spooks old hartge out of the way and park it round the corner, then just sling his cover over this one in his garage, he wouldn't notice for a while

When the engines out of the sport, and the sport is sent to the scrappy you can

very sporting of you old chap tempted, tempted! this, or that C1 or tech1 sport??? decisions, decisions

ok sport, will do. it seems to be all genuine

[spook]

Sorry Adit, my garage is a Hartge stable only.

[adit]

if i nick the h23 badge and stick it on the C1 bootlid, does that count?

[blackcountrybimmerman]

I think that looks reasonably tidy.

Not too much work.

[adit]

not so good in the flesh, especially o/s sill bcb

[blackcountrybimmerman]

Is it too bad to do ANYTHING with?

[adit]

in my opinion this car has to be saved not scrapped as it is a very rare E30 and we want as many a good variety on the zone as poss (opinions?), but it boils down to the usual ratio of time/money/effort expended against pride/value of the end product.

[hennared323i]

So who got it then?

[Theo]

Some brave person from Northern Ireland by the looks of it.

If you're out there, please sell me the steering wheel, gearknob and exterior badges. Cash waiting!

[SilverShadow]

If you're out there, please sell me the steering wheel, gearknob and exterior badges. Cash waiting!

And sell me the strut brace!!

[BMWAlpinaC2]

DON'T BREAK IT MATE, IT'D BE CRIMINAL TO DO SO.

Keep the beast running.