Anyone fitted a 288/288 cam?

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:46 pm

What's the idle like, streetable?

I can put up with a lumpy idle but must be able to pass emmisions and be driveable.

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:52 pm

i have a 288/288 its very lumpy

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:53 pm

player6 wrote:i have a 288/288 its very lumpy

Is it okay for the street though or would you recommend I stick with the 284/272

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:55 pm

i think i would stick to the 284 for the road im ok coz i dont ues the thst much

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:59 pm

im having to fit TB's to get it to run smoother

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:01 pm

Is it really that bad!!!

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:07 pm

yes and no its still got to be mapped coz its still being run in

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:08 pm

Hmmmm, tough call!

I wonder if it'll make a lot of difference in terms of performance from the 284/272 probably not much in it

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:15 pm

my car was RR still with the afm still on and over fualing why i run it in and it was putting out 220bhp/220

Post Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:30 pm

you've got some extra capacity to help tame the profile tho Adam

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:38 am

dunno if its worth it adam as u have already forked out for a 284/272 as it is..... may not be worth it, ull get a peakier higher figure for sure. Stop messin with ure m20 and get something else in there

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:02 am

Hey Mod's can you move this post to "Technical Help .........Need technical Q/A then you're in the right place"

I'm interested in a wider view on this subject, Ta.

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:37 am

I have a 288/288 in the racer although it has been slightly re-ground too. I wouldn't recommend one for the road Adam. I hadn't realised just how lumpy it is until I fitted the temporary standard engine back in the car and felt how smooth it is.

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:53 am

I was thinking of buying a Dbilas 282/272, any thoughts people?

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:01 pm

Jimbob wrote:I was thinking of buying a Dbilas 282/272, any thoughts people?

If you're donna go for that duration then you might as well get the Schrick 284/272

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:04 pm

If I could find one!

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:09 pm

Jimbob wrote:If I could find one!

How much are Dblias asking for the 282/272?

A New Schrick will cost IRO Ãƒ”šÃ‚£400 total, you'll need valve springs too.

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:08 pm

Hi Jimbob, I bought a Dbilas 282/272 for my 2.7, i bought it off German ebay, and in answer to Adams question are they worth it compared to the Shrick, well i would deffinately say so, only costing Ãƒ”šÃ‚£200 compared to Ãƒ”šÃ‚£400 for the shrick, and they are a quality well looked upon tuning firm in Germany, also i enquired about needing the stronger springs and they say not necessary, if you want to get in touch with the agents direct this is there email, ls-cartec@freenet.de and there phone no- 00 49 03 99 32 4 87 00 cheers Dave

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:27 pm

Thanks for the info Dave, spot on! So I take it your 2.7 is running this cam without the upgraded valve springs?

Budgets tight and it's only a matter of time until we start putting it back together, there's no way I'm taking it apart again and buying all the new bolts etc again!!

Jim

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:43 pm

You need to fit this 288/288 thingy to your motor STRAIGHT AWAY.

Emmm... are you selling that Schrick off cheap then...?

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:11 pm

I Enquired with MardiGras Motorsport (www.mardigras.co.uk) to supply a Schrick cam, they can get all durations of Schrick cam and save the hassle of transfering money to Euro's/Germany, this is their email,

Give them a ring to check prices (they also speak English!!!)

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:44 pm

Thanks also for the Schrick info, for the 284/272 they want Ãƒ”šÃ‚£261+vat which isn't a bad price.
But I can get a brand new Dbilas cam to my door for Ãƒ”šÃ‚£220 from elsewhere. Decision time

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:55 pm

schrick it dude...

tried and tested by many people

Post Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:54 pm

I'd go for the Dblias for that price, it's only 2 degrees off the Schrick and like any top brand, you only pay for the name with Schrick.

Post Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:26 am

I seem to remember being offered Shrick 304 & the 288 at around Ãƒ”šÃ‚£220 inclusive from CA Automotive, it was a while back but worth a call. I might have a 284 for sale with the springs in the next few weeks if anyone's interested

Post Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:45 am

I'll have it mate, just across the bridge in Gloucester. I've PM'd you but don't know if you got it or not? You can email me on PQVX AT HOTMAIL.COM

Rog

Post Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:56 am

Just bought my Dbilas 282/272 cam from German ebay, Ãƒ”šÃ‚£220 delivered!

Post Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:41 pm

hmm, just spotted this thread. I have a piper 292 / 292 in my 320 at the moment. although the idle is not smooth the car is very drivable. this is partly down to the raised idle speed that one of the zone chips efects. the only trouble i have had is it sometimes floods on cold days. Great for top end though! cam costs about Ãƒ”šÃ‚£280 blank.

Post Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:07 pm

292/292... are you SURE???

Fookez-moi.

Post Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:43 pm

yup was bit unsure myself so had a look on the paperwork that came with it. 292 inlet 292 exhaust 310 duration

Post Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:53 pm

That's awesome, it must be like one of the old H1 Kawasaki triples (betraying my age here... that was 1972ish...) which you could have accelerated past on a pushbike until they hit their powerband at about 4000 rpm, whereupon they went sideways, and you just came off. Every time.

After a while, you either died, or sold it to the next guy who thought he could ride one...

Post Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:45 pm

M20olly wrote:hmm, just spotted this thread. I have a piper 292 / 292 in my 320 at the moment. although the idle is not smooth the car is very drivable. this is partly down to the raised idle speed that one of the zone chips efects. the only trouble i have had is it sometimes floods on cold days. Great for top end though! cam costs about Ãƒ”šÃ‚£280 blank.

M20olly wrote:yup was bit unsure myself so had a look on the paperwork that came with it. 292 inlet 292 exhaust 310 duration.

Hi the listed duration for this cam is 292 degrees (76 + 36 + 180 = 292) not sure where your getting the 310 duration from?

Was this a straight forward fit?

Did you have any problems with the increased valve lift and have to modify the piston valve pockets?

Are you running it with standard valve springs? Schick list them but Piper don't mention that uprated springs are required?

Would you agree with the power really only coming on strong from 2500 rpm?

Cheers

Post Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:21 pm

So if 292 is the duration, it won't be a 292/292 cam will it, I thought that was a bit wild... so what is it really?

Post Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:13 pm

mmm, will havee a look, says 292 degrees in let and exh, thougt this was comparable to 286/286 etc. was standard fit, didn't eaven take the hed off! bit low on grunt at the bottom end but then it was before i changed it. going in to 2.7 in a few weeks so that should put an end to that prob.