Jaffro. Negative.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:20 pm

Really did,nt want to start a new year like this, but also don,t wish to see anyone else treated this way either. Jaffro and a friend came down to my house early last year and picked uo some M30 conversion parts, all of which were paid for. However Karl wanted a set of grey cab leathers that i had . No problem, i thought, take them and pay me later.
Since then i,ve had nothing but poor excuses from him.
Have since found out that he has sold his cab with my leathers in it,
and have not heard or received one penny from him.
Seems like i,m not alone in this as there is at least one other member with a problem. Get it sorted Karl.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:49 pm

Early last year?

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:54 pm

DanThe wrote:Early last year?

Yes Dan. Know he was having a few personal problems, relationship
and health wise, but as he was sort of keeping in touch up to about October, i thought i,d give him the benefit of the doubt.
Like i say, i,m not alone in this, which if i,d known earlier i would,nt have left it this long.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:59 pm

you must be mad or very trusting to let someone have something without paying for it especially something with a high value like leather interior

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:02 pm

I'd say you're probably on a 'hiding' to nothing...

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:02 pm

My lack of sanity has never been in doubt mate. Usually i,m a pretty good judge of character.
This time it appears i got it wrong.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:06 pm

So it was over 6 months ago? IMO there is no excuse for anything over a week, if he didnt have the money he shouldnt have taken them or made promises he wasnt going to keep. As for selling them on in his car thats just rubbing it in your face, how much does he owe you?

Con artists always appear to have good intentions, thats how they rip people off

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:07 pm

have you got his address go round there and demand your money if no joy take his car

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:10 pm

£250 Dan. Pretty much wrote it off, just thought i,d warn others.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:13 pm

i wouldnt write it off this person needs a good slap these type of people really piss me off

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:13 pm

town325i wrote:have you got his address go round there and demand your money if no joy take his car

Not an option as he has sold the car with the leathers in it and has apparentley left his original address.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:15 pm

Rob you are too trusing mate

This Jaffro fella has bought and sold a number of things on here in the last 12 months including decent value stuff such as engines etc....so there is NO excuse for him ripping you off!

If you fancy a trip up there to collect give me a shout and i'll come with you.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:16 pm

Sorry to hear about this dude!

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:17 pm

Who is it on here that is quite good mates with him? Ric something his username is

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:22 pm

SPADGE wrote:Rob you are too trusing mate

This Jaffro fella has bought and sold a number of things on here in the last 12 months including decent value stuff such as engines etc....so there is NO excuse for him ripping you off!

If you fancy a trip up there to collect give me a shout and i'll come with you.

I know mate, but as it,s one of more endearing features i,m loathe to change. Tbh i don,t recall ever having a problem like this before, certainly not on here, in fact quite the opposite.
Thank,s for the offer though mate, don,t worry though, i,m not the shrinking violet i sometimes appear to be.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:27 pm

I have had problems with Jaffro too.

I'm only down £30 now, so its become more of a joke than any real urgency to send in the heavy mob. I had patience of a saint at the start, because I didn't want to loose out on the M3 prop (which are hard to come by). The excuses have been farcical:

Mar 20 paid Jaffro c/o rick325i for an M3 Prop
Mar 23 paid Jaffro c/o rick325i for M30 Manifold

PM's:
Mar 31 6.13pm Excuses about courier not collecting
Apr 23 9.26pm More excuses about 'new' courier
May 04 12.34pm Wanted my postal address. He didn't have it!
May 22 7:17 pm More excuses, said it would ship soon.
Jun 02, 8:48 am Said I would get tracking number soon
Mon 09 12:02 pm More excuses, no tracking number.
Jun 12 7:14 pm Prop arrived - Manifold missing! Jaffro said courier lost it
Jun 26 9:13pm ”aWaiting for refund from courier”a
Aug 11 10:20 am ”aMay have Replacement to send you”a
Sep 04 11:10 am ”aWill post in a day or to”a
Sep 27 11:15 am ”aBeen sent”a, tracking number to be posted.
Nov 02 3:33 pm More excuses
Nov 13 2:44 pm ”aIts on it's way”a

I had forgotten until now that I paid rick325i the money. I'll have to contact him.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:30 pm

DanThe wrote:Who is it on here that is quite good mates with him? Ric something his username is

ric325i Dan, have PM,ed him for some info. Ric actually came down with Jaffro and paid cash for what he wanted. Sound fella, and have no problem with him. Got a feeling Jaffro may well be in Spain or Portugal now.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:33 pm

Rob i know your no shrinking violet as your face tells me you must have had a feck rucks in your time

Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:37 pm

Don,t mind me boat getting hit Spadge, it,s my wallet that really hurts.

Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:59 pm

What grinds on me more about this sort of thing is that you have TRUSTED someone off the zone. This site has always been (and should always be) about trust and helping people. We were only discussing this at the Ace the other night. Theres a group of us that all seem to bounce off one another and it's an unwritten agreement that we don't rip each other off, ask and pay fair prices and assist with tools and help if we can oblige. It's all about the trust.

This Jaffro wallah has just taken the p1ss and advantage of your nice and patient nature. AND there seems to be more and more of it happening. I was lucky with the issue i had a few weeks ago, the zoner was man enough to admit he'd made a mistake and fully refunded me. But that seems to be in the minority at the mo.

Stick with it mate. RIC325i? could he help in all this? I realise he was not involved as such but a new address or phone number would be a help

Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:16 pm

Trev, have sent Ric325i a couple of PM,s,no reply as yet. When i say i,ve written it off, i don,t mean i,ve forgotten
all about it, just not going to sit and brood about it. Life,s too short. As you rightly say though, you would think
there would be a bit of honour amongst people on here. Oh well, if it saves someone else being ripped off
that would be a positive.

Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:49 pm

thats really bad rob

Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:53 pm

As I read this, My Name Is Earl is on the telly.

Karma, it will get you in the end dude! ???

Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:12 pm

Ric325i is local to me.

Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:20 pm

there seems to be an unfortunate rise of this sort of thing across all the car forums im on.

Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:22 pm

Rob, This sucks donkey d*ck in a big way! Don't write off the money, Scammers generally rely on people giving up and then they get what they want!

B7 wrote:What grinds on me more about this sort of thing is that you have TRUSTED someone off the zone. This site has always been (and should always be) about trust and helping people. We were only discussing this at the Ace the other night. Theres a group of us that all seem to bounce off one another and it's an unwritten agreement that we don't rip each other off, ask and pay fair prices and assist with tools and help if we can oblige. It's all about the trust.

You tend to find a group that you can trust without thinking about it, I know there are some, No lots of genuinely good lads on this forum that I can call in a favour from at pretty much any time and I hope people think of me in the same manner. As you say trust is what makes this scene what it is!

Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:27 pm

Sorry to hear that Rob.

HartgeH27 wrote:Ric325i is local to me.

Isn't he a mod or something? - E30 Zone Graphic Designer

I had trouble with Jaffro too, but saying that I never paid for what I was expecting, he just said pay for it when it arrives???

It never did arrive and it put a stop to my conversion

He was for ever putting an engine in and selling it the next week or so

Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:30 pm

Ric is part of the zone design team alongside Alyman.

Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:36 pm

Its one thing to have the seats on tick but to sell the fooking car with them in

Rob ive got his address saved if you need it?

Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:05 pm

That would be very handy Tony. Could you PM it please mate.

Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:08 pm

HartgeH27 wrote:Ric325i is local to me.

Thought Ric lived in the Manchester area.
Not that he is involved in any of this.

Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:30 pm

gooner1 wrote:That would be very handy Tony. Could you PM it please mate.

Sent

Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:15 pm

Rob - this stinks. Persevere and go for your dosh. I'm presently trying to get some money back from a zoner (albeit a pitiful amount - but I have principles) and it stinks.

In my case the twot was looking for a steelworker near him a while ago, so I gave him the mobile number of one of my best mates who does this and lives not too far from him. OK, he may not have bothered to contact my friend, but it pees me off when I stupidly assume that others concept of 'community' is the same as mine.

Bring on the E30 Zone Community ASBO - that's what I say!

Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:58 pm

gooner1 wrote:
HartgeH27 wrote:Ric325i is local to me.

Thought Ric lived in the Manchester area.
Not that he is involved in any of this.

I had the wrong Ric !!!!!!!!!!!

Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:50 pm

HartgeH27 wrote:
gooner1 wrote:
HartgeH27 wrote:Ric325i is local to me.

Thought Ric lived in the Manchester area.
Not that he is involved in any of this.
I had the wrong Ric !!!!!!!!!!!

No worries mate, thanks for your help anyway.