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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:11 pm

this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... NA:GB:1123

What engine is this based on, m52 2.8 or an m54 3.0?

If only it was Manual. It seems amazingly good value, despite the no reserve, I bet it will be relisted with more detail.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:15 pm

Ahh if it came between the 2, I would buy the e30 only because Im committed to them.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:24 pm

madaboutthe30 wrote:Ahh if it came between the 2, I would buy the e30 only because Im committed to them.
balls to that i would have that alpina better value for money if you ask me
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:25 pm

committed to a car? have you signed some sort of contract? id have the better performing, better handling more powerful more exclusive e36 over an e30 325 m20 with some trinkets added on :D .
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:25 pm

Alpina for me too :D
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:38 pm

Only the slushbox would put me off.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:40 pm

BMracing wrote:Only the slushbox would put me off.
Me too, Alpina buffs, did they do manual versions? I think they did but i'm not sure.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:40 pm

E36 for me! But I would have to take that spoiler off! :D
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:45 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:
BMracing wrote:Only the slushbox would put me off.
Me too, Alpina buffs, did they do manual versions? I think they did but i'm not sure.
I don't think they did, i've never seen one anyway. Not even on a pre-facelift.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:46 pm

Even though i love E30s id choose the E36!
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:47 pm

I assume they were based on M52's, M54's weren't around until 2000. I think the pre-facelift one was a 3.0 and M50 based.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:50 pm

Sorry but I would go for a mint sport (or alot of other cars) anyday. The looks just don't do it for me.
How much do you lot think it will go for in the end?
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:51 pm

oakey wrote:How much do you lot think it will go for in the end
It sold for £2950.99
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:52 pm

Its ended at under £3k with NO reserve. Hence I don't think it will have actually sold.

A £2900 tech 2 sport or this and there is no contest in my eyes. I'd be in the semi auto.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:58 pm

Its more of a US M3 engine, iron block, over bored with special pistons

Id have the E36 and fck the body off :D
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:59 pm

Nice car Hap.....






...Oh sorry, Wrong answer! I'd go for the 'pina all day long.
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:00 pm

Dan is that the same engine as yours?
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:00 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:Its ended at under £3k with NO reserve. Hence I don't think it will have actually sold.

A £2900 tech 2 sport or this and there is no contest in my eyes. I'd be in the semi auto.
Fair enough I didnt notice that 8O . I have to say in that case I would probably go for the e36.

Another one for you:
My brother just bought a very smart 330ci (manual) for £5500. How many people would rather that over a mint sport?
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Post Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:18 pm

Thats very cheap. Because its an Alpina I love it.
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:21 am

oakey wrote:
Jon_Bmw wrote:Its ended at under £3k with NO reserve. Hence I don't think it will have actually sold.

A £2900 tech 2 sport or this and there is no contest in my eyes. I'd be in the semi auto.
Fair enough I didnt notice that 8O . I have to say in that case I would probably go for the e36.

Another one for you:
My brother just bought a very smart 330ci (manual) for £5500. How many people would rather that over a mint sport?
Ids go for the 330ci over a sport, Mainly because Ive had a Sport and I like to try lots of different cars....And 330ci's are rapid mixed with abit of luxury.
As for the E36 Alpina V's E30 Sport....Tough choice but the Alpina might just edge it.
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:18 am

I'd go for the aplipina e36 all day long. 10 times more exclusive than a sport.

Question, I see it has the steptronic steering wheel but what is that auxilary lights module in the lower part of the dash binnicle? Never EVER seen that before in any Alpina or any e36!!
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:42 am

Gear position indicator?
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:49 am

oakey wrote:Sorry but I would go for a mint sport (or alot of other cars) anyday. The looks just don't do it for me.
How much do you lot think it will go for in the end?
I agree with Dave. Despite all the toys and don't get me wrong I love Alpina's but the E36 just doesn't cut the mustard for me. Now if it was an E30 Alpina, WELL that's a different story.... :)
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:07 am

lovely thing! it's not an auto like normal, as you can change gears manually up and down the box from the steering wheel. Surpisingly good when your on a charge as you can keep both hands on the wheel all the time!

The engine is a modified US M3 bottom end with an alpina fettled M52 head good for 280 odd brake
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:34 am

The E36 Alpina is undoubtly the 'better' car, but when my E36 goes wrong I curse the cost however small, yet I enjoy spending stupid :mad: money on my E30. Could you ever enjoy spending money on an E36??
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:59 am

e36's are cheaper than e30's why is this news? if you are 21 all you care about is speed and you want to change your car every 5 minutes then you won't be in an e30 for long. if you have actually had a few different cars and appreciate what an excellent all rounder the e30 is maybe you will understand why these newer cars are cheaper and why the e30 is attaining classic status.
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:12 am

pnd wrote:e36's are cheaper than e30's why is this news? if you are 21 all you care about is speed and you want to change your car every 5 minutes then you won't be in an e30 for long. if you have actuallty had a few different cars and appreciate what an excellent all rounder the e30 is maybe you will understand why these newer cars are cheaper and why the e30 is attaining classic status.
I couldn't have put it better myself
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:31 am

Agreed, There is only one other type car that I have driven and enjoyd so much. I would never choose a 36 over a 30.
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:46 pm

pnd wrote:e36's are cheaper than e30's why is this news? if you are 21 all you care about is speed and you want to change your car every 5 minutes then you won't be in an e30 for long. if you have actually had a few different cars and appreciate what an excellent all rounder the e30 is maybe you will understand why these newer cars are cheaper and why the e30 is attaining classic status.
Is it the constant maintaining, filling in grot with p40, changing blown heads thats appealing? Undoubtable for the money, e30's are great little cars. They drive nice, they handle neutrally and they are generally easy to work on.

There comes a time that something a bit newer becomes appealing to some people. Newer and more exclusive cars do have an benefit IMO. You well know a sub £3k sport is probably a shitter, this Alpina may not be the best in the world, but its 8-10 years newer and 'hopefully' a lot less rusty.
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:38 pm

BMracing wrote:
Jon_Bmw wrote:
BMracing wrote:Only the slushbox would put me off.
Me too, Alpina buffs, did they do manual versions? I think they did but i'm not sure.
I don't think they did, i've never seen one anyway. Not even on a pre-facelift.
Shame!
The E36 alpinas, B3 2.8, B3 3.0 and the uk only B2.5 were all available in 5 speed manual and "Switchtronic", an auto with manual shifting capabilties and shift buttons on the steering wheel.

The B8 was manual only i think.
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:46 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:
pnd wrote:e36's are cheaper than e30's why is this news? if you are 21 all you care about is speed and you want to change your car every 5 minutes then you won't be in an e30 for long. if you have actually had a few different cars and appreciate what an excellent all rounder the e30 is maybe you will understand why these newer cars are cheaper and why the e30 is attaining classic status.
Is it the constant maintaining, filling in grot with p40, changing blown heads thats appealing? Undoubtable for the money, e30's are great little cars. They drive nice, they handle neutrally and they are generally easy to work on.

There comes a time that something a bit newer becomes appealing to some people. Newer and more exclusive cars do have an benefit IMO. You well know a sub £3k sport is probably a shitter, this Alpina may not be the best in the world, but its 8-10 years newer and 'hopefully' a lot less rusty.
A lot of E36's are just as bad as some E30's. You just have to find a good one (of either) and keep up with the preventative maintainence to keep the rust free and running right.

The next car on the cards for me is another E46 as i miss the modern daily. An Alpina B3 3.3 is a very likely possibility as these are getting quite cheap now. The only downside is that all RHD UK cars were Switchtronic but this doesn't bother me to much and if anything would more relaxing for everyday use. I MUST BE GETTING OLD lol!
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:52 pm

The plus point with this one was it was one of the last of the production line assuming it was registered straight away and wasn't old stock. I agree, the e46 alpinas and even more so perhaps, the late e39s would be a great buy for a car. Potentially a good investment if you got a model that had low Alpina production numbers. b10 v8?
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:49 pm

I just checked out insurance on this (purely to satisfy my curiosity) first of all confused couldnt find the car from the reg no. Then when i got quotes, I started getting quotes of 5 grand before confused sh1t itself and crashed :eek:
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:54 pm

I would expect an Alpina E36 would be looked after better then an M3.
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Post Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:32 pm

alpina in their terms built the e46 B3 and e39 B10 in pretty big numbers.

Good thing with alpinas is they aren't effected by this new road tx robbery, buy your B5 and pay £195 a year tax!