M42 vs M44 I.S engines

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Post Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:10 pm

what is the better lump of the two and does the extra 100cc make any difference as from what i read there both 140bhp, does one have more pulling power_
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:14 pm

M44 is a smoother engine with more talk and abit more economical.

Something tells me youre in the market for an E36 318is !?!? :? lol
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:19 pm

all over the show at the min! not sure what i want! heart says 328i sport GO on! head says nice juice bills on a 318is still nippy be SENSABLE!
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Post Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:27 pm

320ise wrote:all over the show at the min! not sure what i want! heart says 328i sport GO on! head says nice juice bills on a 318is still nippy be SENSABLE!
The 328's are awesome and quick and the sports look cool....A few years ago I didnt know if to buy an E30 325i Sport or an E36 328i Sport...In the end I went for the E30 because id always wanted one but I kinda regretted it because the 328's are quicker and probably a better all round car.

Ive had the E36 318is with the M44 though and it was Faultless....Dont think you will be dissapointed but its nowhere near in the same league as the 328 in terms of power.....But like you say thyre cheaper to run 8)
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Post Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:49 pm

i want info lol!
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Post Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:23 pm

320ise wrote:i want info lol!
What info do you want ?
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Post Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:08 am

The m44 is an economy version of the M42. The earlier lump has sodium filled exhaust valves, forged cranks too?
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Post Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:45 am

does that mean that the m44 is not as good? might be getting a e36 i.s and just want to know what the best engine is, is the m42 the same as the e30 one? bar the intake manifold. also does the m44 have a 4 branch as standard as the m42?
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Post Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:08 am

Simon13 wrote:The m44 is an economy version of the M42. The earlier lump has sodium filled exhaust valves, forged cranks too?
Correct, although the M42 doesn't have the power or torque of the M44, it's a hell of a lot more lively.

Both the M44 and M42 have tubular exhaust manifolds, and the E30 and E36 M42 engines are practically the same, bar the sumps, intake and exhaust manifolds, pulley setup and mounts. Also the M44 has a more advanced engine management system, with more sensors and stuff (technical term).

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Post Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:22 pm

The M44 doesn't seem to sh!t itself like the M42's can, theres no profile gasket to worry about on the M44. They both have their vices like M20's but a good one will do the miles,power and take a good hiding
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Post Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:25 pm

Is profile gasket an easy job, while I got the engine out an all or is it summat you would suggest leaving to a mechanic. No guarantees as to wether it has been done. Also is he actual gasket cheap?
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Post Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:17 pm

it was a bmw recall job, most should have been done. Just something to bear in mind. You'd know if it was shot as there would be water coming out the timing covers!
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Post Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:32 pm

the m44 engine will be better than the m42 because you can find low milage ones at good prices
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Post Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:57 pm

it was a bmw recall job, most should have been done. Just something to bear in mind. You'd know if it was shot as there would be water coming out the timing covers!
No fluids in my engine at the moment as my IS engine is sat in my mates garage!!!!
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Post Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:59 pm

Is there much of a difference in M44 heads over M42s?
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Post Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:03 pm

320ise wrote:what is the better lump of the two and does the extra 100cc make any difference as from what i read there both 140bhp, does one have more pulling power_
Yes, the 1.9 E36 engine will ultimately give more power. Its what you do to it to achieve it.

Having said this, the con rods are weaker than the E30 ones.
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Post Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:04 pm

town325i wrote:the m44 engine will be better than the m42 because you can find low milage ones at good prices
what a load of b o ll ocks
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Post Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:20 pm

tomtomiS wrote:
town325i wrote:the m44 engine will be better than the m42 because you can find low milage ones at good prices
what a load of b o ll ocks
+1 :roll:
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Post Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:03 pm

im supprised no one has said why bother when you can get a 6 pot :P
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Post Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:35 pm

thats the most imaginative thing ive heard all day :stupid: