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Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:29 pm

In this months BMWCar magazine there is a feature on £30k cars and the Sport Evo is one of them. In the specification there is a production figure of 976 and in brackets 50 RHD.

Can anyone shed any light on this?
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Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:55 pm

Well, i thought there were only 600 Sport Evo and no official RHD.

I think there was perhaps 38 UK Sport Evo but i never heard of any original RHD.
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Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:02 pm

As CSL said, 600 official Sport evolutions. I have never seen or heard of a RHD one but i am fairly sure a few have gone out to australia and been molested :(
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Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:31 pm

So a typical magazine inacuracy then.
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Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:42 pm

bss325i wrote:So a typical magazine inacuracy then.
That would be a very poor show for the mag to fook up like that skool boy i would say! 8O
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I mentioned that there were 50 RHD ones made but another zoner told me off for saying such a thing. I would ask Munich legends as they know the E30 M3 better than anyone else in the UK.
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I would say Peter knows his e30 m3 onions, and he says no..
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:00 am

i have on good authority that there was/is a RHD sport evo based on a BMW exhaust manifold fitted to a RHD vehicle
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:53 am

reggid wrote:i have on good authority that there was/is a RHD sport evo based on a BMW exhaust manifold fitted to a RHD vehicle

NO factory production RHD M3s were ever built ,though i wouldn't be suprised if the sultan of brunei had a couple stashed away.


I wouldn't pay too much heed to sellers in aus trying to hawk their low mileage 1 owner minter factory M3s, most of them left here on a stretcher ! :eek:
Unlike the red 'Hartge converted' M3 cab that is doing the rounds on the east coast ! :cry:
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:12 am

Probably whoever wrote the article wrongly assumed that the official uk dealer allotted cars were RHD :roll: .
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:42 am

No factory RHD E30 M3s, not for Australia / Japan / Sith Efrika or anywhere else - ever.
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:12 pm

1 black and 1 red EVO III's here in Australia been converted to RHD :)

The guy owns 5 E30 M3's, all RHD!
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:49 pm

Thats because your (Australian) government is too nannying to allow LHD cars on your roads :P So you take fine cars and butcher then.


Theres a rumour that BMW sent some technicians/engineers all the way to NZ in the 80s to build a one off RHD car to see if it was a plausible excercise. The president of the Kiwi BMW CC claims to own it. And gets quite defensive if you question the authenticity.


I for one cant see why BMW wouldnt just build a RHD prototype in Germany! Rather than fly people and equipment 9K miles :mad:
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:46 pm

Felix79 wrote: I would ask Munich legends as they know the E30 M3 better than anyone else in the UK.
do they ? the know how to get money out of people.

lots of stories of RHD e30 M3's / evo and sport evos , all from reliable people, nothing is for sure though

same story goes with the white sport evo's
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Felix79 wrote:I mentioned that there were 50 RHD ones made but another zoner told me off for saying such a thing. I would ask Munich legends as they know the E30 M3 better than anyone else in the UK.
Is that the same Munich Legends that advises a new timing chain at 100K for the E30 M3 :roll: ? I think you'll find others out there with at least as much knowledge of the E30 M3 as ML and, IMHO, some with more.
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Felix79 wrote:I would ask Munich legends as they know the E30 M3 better than anyone else in the UK.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

That made me chuckle!

BMW NEVER EVER made a RHD E30 M3 of any sort. Maybe a couple of prototypes but that was it. There certainly are not 50 rhd Sport Evos!
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Rich_W wrote:Thats because your (Australian) government is too nannying to allow LHD cars on your roads :P So you take fine cars and butcher then.
Actually, vehicles 30 years or older are exempt.

Club plate vehicles only need to be 25 years or older.

Still ~ sigh ~ I wish LHD cars were more accessible to us and we didn't need to convert them.
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Andyboy wrote:
Felix79 wrote:I would ask Munich legends as they know the E30 M3 better than anyone else in the UK.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

That made me chuckle!

BMW NEVER EVER made a RHD E30 M3 of any sort. Maybe a couple of prototypes but that was it. There certainly are not 50 rhd Sport Evos!
This is exactly what i have thought but possible someone like Birds/Hartge had done 50 sport evo's. If that was the case (which i'm sure it isn't) the there must be alot more RHD converted E30 M3's about than i got the impression of.

Oh and i just read the full article and they have stated that there were 668 Black sport evos and 308 Red sport evos but no mention of the fabled white ones.

These figures seem a bit random for wrong production figures?
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Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:15 pm

pacerpete wrote:

NO factory production RHD M3s were ever built ,though i wouldn't be suprised if the sultan of brunei had a couple stashed away
check out his car list... insane (this list is slightly outdated)
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bss325i wrote:
Oh and i just read the full article and they have stated that there were 668 Black sport evos and 308 Red sport evos but no mention of the fabled white ones.
lol!

They are the paint codes!

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Simon wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Oh and i just read the full article and they have stated that there were 668 Black sport evos and 308 Red sport evos but no mention of the fabled white ones.
lol!

They are the paint codes!

:mad:
No way! Really?

What a school boy mistake to make! :chuckle:
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bss325i wrote:
Simon wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Oh and i just read the full article and they have stated that there were 668 Black sport evos and 308 Red sport evos but no mention of the fabled white ones.
lol!

They are the paint codes!

:mad:
No way! Really?

What a school boy mistake to make! :chuckle:
They've obviously read this article...

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=8

And taken the paint codes as production figures...
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Simon wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Simon wrote: lol!

They are the paint codes!

:mad:
So it does but it also says in the "Production Data" section of that artical "600 built 12/89 thru 03/90"!

I guess they just skimmed through it if they read it! :mad:

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They've obviously read this article...

http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=8

And taken the paint codes as production figures...
No way! Really?

What a school boy mistake to make! :chuckle:[/
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schmick325 wrote:1 black and 1 red EVO III's here in Australia been converted to RHD :)

The guy owns 5 E30 M3's, all RHD!
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Munich legends are legends in their own minds, i've heard 1 too many horror storys from good folk. I've had that tosser "inspect" my sport when it was forsale and i just don't like them one bit or believe anything they say

Birds so i'm told converted around 20 M3's to RHD various models though.

I wonder if an E36 rack would fit and clear the manifold, that would bring some majic to them!
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bss325i wrote:
Andyboy wrote:
Felix79 wrote:I would ask Munich legends as they know the E30 M3 better than anyone else in the UK.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

That made me chuckle!

BMW NEVER EVER made a RHD E30 M3 of any sort. Maybe a couple of prototypes but that was it. There certainly are not 50 rhd Sport Evos!
This is exactly what i have thought but possible someone like Birds/Hartge had done 50 sport evo's. If that was the case (which i'm sure it isn't) the there must be alot more RHD converted E30 M3's about than i got the impression of.

Oh and i just read the full article and they have stated that there were 668 Black sport evos and 308 Red sport evos but no mention of the fabled white ones.

These figures seem a bit random for wrong production figures?
right I didn't put don the whoel story this time but your loling needs me too.

about 5 years ago when I was looking at maybe getting an M3 a posh dealership had 5 M3's and one was this lachs silve rRHD one which was £4000 more. I enquired about them and I was told there were 50 espcally done in RHD. I then had soemoen coem on here and do the usal no never ever just dealership tosh. I saw the car and the add in 05 for a RHD M3 and they wanted £10,500 when a mint M3 was about £6000 then.

now it's always one thing that I remembered as my then slu tof an ex GF ( no bitterness ) refussed to let me have a LHD car as the amount of overtaking needed ont he A4221 from Oxford to Beford was massive.

I do not have the grace of knowing the full exploited history of production varients I just remember what I was told on the phone then. weather it is true of not I don't know and tbh I don't care anymore. I was trying to point out when I said about it I was soon shouted at for saying it. I was pointing that out how I remember being told it.

No I will go sit in my corner before the sniggers get too loud and contuine polishing my redundent set of alpina 8j's :moon:
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Simon13 wrote:I'll be polishing my 4 8js and 6 7js pinas if anyone asks :teehee:
I got 7 7j's and 2 8j's :wan:

My cabs got the alpinas on the centres are usless as nics still not sent me the fkign keys and there were only 3 caps but I want somethign else fo r the cab but has to be 16's. The cab has just improved soooooooo much for being on 16's and with me now owning the C2 I like the cab to have something else.

My C2 only uses 7j's as thats what Alpina put on them and even my spare is a mint 7j :D

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Simon13 wrote:Munich legends are legends in their own minds, i've heard 1 too many horror storys from good folk. I've had that tosser "inspect" my sport when it was forsale and i just don't like them one bit or believe anything they say
Agreed....They are pure rip-off merchants: Any amount of bullsh*t to extract more $$s from victims!
Birds so i'm told converted around 20 M3's to RHD various models though.
Dunno the figures, but they were the "official" converting shop...They used a RHD 325 rack with a slightly modified exhaust manifold to complete the job...
I wonder if an E36 rack would fit and clear the manifold, that would bring some majic to them!
E36 racks are not that special...I think that a better job would be to use a Z3 rack...
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e36 rack isn't that special, but it's still a LOT quicker than a standard m3 rack let alone a normal e30 rack!
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Z3 rack is too extreme, drive one at speed on a bumpy road and it gets unerving, i guess it's called bump steer. You get this with the E36 rack. Both racks are sh!t on feedback imo compared to a e30 rack though.

White rims? you must be joking!

Birds modified the sport evo manifold, they are still equal length on the primarys too. So still a great manifold
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Its not bump steer, it is literally the fact that it requires less input to turn the wheels a set amount, makes then twitchier at speed
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From what I can see the birds manifold is the standard one widened to get the lower column past.

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