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Andyboy
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:24 pm

I know a guy in Germany who builds special E21's and he won't touch anything that needs paint or has been painted. He buys low mileage minters (nearly always Granny owned 316's), fits a decent suspension kit, restored BBS split rims, a period Momo/Nardi wheel and a double carburettor kit - a pair of new Webers on a stock M40 works quite well with the right chokes and jets. None of this ruins the car, they are all period mods that were done when the cars were new and it's all reversible. Drilling holes and screwing on some shite bodykit proves that ruining nice original cars is a zone 'must'.

That needs a good suspension kit with a 30mm drop, some suitable rims and some tweaking on the M10. A bodykitted M5/ powered E30? How unimaginative.
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:56 pm

100hp Vs 230+hp

Hmmmmm............ decisions, decisions,,,

And whats a few holes in the sills of an E30? Not exactly unheard of is it :D
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:50 pm

Dan, thats a wicked find mate!

Look forward to seeing the end butchered result :D
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:56 pm

when does the cutting, drilling and grinding start?
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:39 pm

Looks very nice and very similar to mine, same age, no radio or speakers, but less miles and bit better body (not much tho winkeye ) - keep fit windows, steering and sunroof !

BTW - you said it was completely standard - is the front trim (below fogs) with the 5 screws standard as I have this on mine and was told by the local dealer that it wasn't as I was after the clips on either side and we couldn't find the part number ? :?
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:07 pm

Drop an S38 in it and keep it looking standard. Will shock the Saxo boys at the lights!
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:23 pm

I wouldn't fit the tech 1 kit,drilling cherry sills :cry: but a slam and engine transplant is what that car was saved for.

trawl a ford show and spot all the gen RS Mk2 escorts, 90% of which are based on 1100pop shells after a mid life "update"

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:33 pm

fingerman wrote:Looks very nice and very similar to mine, same age, no radio or speakers, but less miles and bit better body (not much tho winkeye ) - keep fit windows, steering and sunroof !

BTW - you said it was completely standard - is the front trim (below fogs) with the 5 screws standard as I have this on mine and was told by the local dealer that it wasn't as I was after the clips on either side and we couldn't find the part number ? :?
Not sure, my 84 Henna Red had vents in that piece and that was very very standard, no central locking even.

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:46 pm

Dan no tech 1 kit!

The rest will be :cool: mate, some bbs on a drop with an M54 will be full monty pukka with big time sleeper in the mix
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:51 pm

Very nice find and as others have said, no tech 1 kit!
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:55 pm

I might 'test it' with the chrome still on for a while,,, :?

will give me a better chance of making it to Santa Pod that way
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:09 pm

Leaving it on would be different from the crowd too. I've been working on the C2 this week, while doing it I've been admiring the Cirrus blue chromie I've got sat here. They're a fine looking thing really, especially when you're sick of looking at tech II stuff.

I'm strongly considering getting it back on the road but maybe splashing out and fitting a set of minty 15" BBS - I know what you're thinking, I'm a trendsetter, yes I know.

Andy does make a good point though.

Either way that black car looks the tits. Nice find Dan 8)
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:23 pm

Then again, I may retro fit some E36 side skirts :cool:
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:25 pm

DanThe wrote:Then again, I may retro fit some E36 side skirts :cool:
i really hope your joking 8O
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:26 pm

DanThe wrote:Then again, I may retro fit some E36 side skirts :cool:
I was looking at some E46 rear lights today Dan... Reckon they would work :?
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:27 pm

Perhaps with some nice 19" rimz that would look good Dan. Give it a try. It would go with your E36 engine, but wait, have you thought about just buying an e36?

Maybe you should join www.e36coupe.com (and never come back here suggesting things like that)

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm

just mechanicals the outside looks nice. bbs only and a drop as it's so clean
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:34 pm

The E36 sides are quite nice, especially on a pre-facelift.

Maybe I should just overload it with chrome, contrasts well with the black :idea:
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:40 pm

Chrome arches winkeye

No really you know my opinion about it from our chats before...

Overload it with every Ebay, Hellfrauds and Tescos value range 'shite' you can find, I have a lovely set of DTM upswepts if you want?

Im sure your big and ugly! enough to make your own mind up, If not feel free to ask me :wink:

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:45 pm

DanThe wrote:100hp Vs 230+hp

Hmmmmm............ decisions, decisions,,,

And whats a few holes in the sills of an E30? Not exactly unheard of is it :D
My Sport Evo had 238 bhp, so it's old news to me.......
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Set of angel eyes and M3 mirrors would be a start then maybe a set of spinning centre wheels winkeye
would look well cool innit :P
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Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:53 pm

Theres a chip on Ebay that gives you an extra 10bhp, that would kick Andy's old Evo's arse at 240+hp, I know its only 2hp but every little counts :cool:
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:52 am

Remember to fold the rear seats down to save weight!!!

I think it would be cool to leave the outside untouched. Like they do in the VDub scene. Almost a 'cali' look e30, lots of chrome, but with the ponies to make it worth driving :evei:
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:15 am

Andyboy wrote: My Sport Evo had 238 bhp, so it's old news to me.......

I just couldnt be arsed to drive around in a 4 pot 316, has no appeal to me whatsoever.
As soon as I got it off the road it was sorned.

eko, angel eyes are on order :wink:
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:20 pm

Lucky man! Perfect base car! :D
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:23 pm

Andyboy wrote:
DanThe wrote:100hp Vs 230+hp

Hmmmmm............ decisions, decisions,,,

And whats a few holes in the sills of an E30? Not exactly unheard of is it :D
My Sport Evo had 238 bhp, so it's old news to me.......
they never make the power or very rarely you should know that! and are sadly lacking the grunt compared also
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:37 am

Yes they do. It's the badly maintained shitbags with incorrect valve clearances, tired cap/rotor, wrongly gapped plugs and Tecso lawnmower fuel that don't make the grade.
Until you've actually driven a good Sport Evo, you'll not know how quick they are.
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OBs wrote:... I have a lovely set of DTM upswepts if you want?
If Dan doesn't have them Andy, I fancy going cereally kewl and impressing the kids when I drive through Hele winkeye

Lovely motor and a great find. Sleeper sounds good, just the thing to gob-smack smart-arses in their jelly mould fart boxes :chuckle:
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:29 pm

oguz327 wrote:Dan, thats a wicked find mate!

Look forward to seeing the end butchered result :D

x2!!! If its half as good as the more door is,we'll not be dissapointed :cool:
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Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:41 pm

Got a set of e36 side's here. already modded to fit an e30 if you were serious dan

Go ahead and mod it all out if thats what you want to do dan, looks a good base rather than spending god knows how much trying to get a rough one tidy enough
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:26 am

Ok guys finally got round to taking some pics, here is how it now stands

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Rather tight down here..

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Anybody got a Nardi wheel centre/horn for sale?

Recaro's have also had a re-vamp 8)

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Also had it on the dyno for the first time today, clocked up the first 1000 miles the other day and dumped the Asda value oil in favour of some 5W30

I used Hi-Tech Motorsport in Cradley Heath, power at the wheels = 203hp and 188Lbft
The graph doesnt show engine hp but after a quick look through his book and weighing up what transmission/diff I have he estimated a power loss of 40-44hp, so 243hp and 230ish torque winkeye

There is plenty of room for improvement with some proper mapping, the engine is still making power when it hits the limiter, its caught me out a few times this week 8O
The guy also said he thought it was pinging (due to the comp raise) so its now on a strict diet of super unleaded

Engine spec is as follows -

M52B28 crank, rods/pistons fully balanced with front pulley, lightweight flywheel and clutch cover, all built into an M50 Iron block which has been skimmed, acid cleaned and bores honed.
Head is from an E36 Alpina C2 2.5 complete with pina cams
M50 inlet manifold with a BBTB
Proper air filter winkeye
M52 tubular exhaust manifolds, only the front one has been modded to miss the crossmember/steering rack
All running on M52 management

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Total weight of flywheel/clutch is 11kg!

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There is a lot more to it which I cant be arsed to go into at the moment, but all in all im very happy with the outcome :D
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:28 am

awsome, how a chromie should look like, absolutly love it :cool:
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:32 am

That is actually gorgeous! :drool: And No rust! :eek:
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:39 am

Other than the steering wheel, that is bang on the money in every sense!

Gloss black
Clean stock looks
Pukka 24 valver
Highbacks
A/C

:cool: :cool: :cool: Awesome!
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Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:42 am

Actually Ollie, I did find some rust.....

Underside of the Offside front chassis rail

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Luckily, my hands were a bit oily and it wiped off with my finger :)
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