Steering Guibo Groupbuy: Second Batch SEE NEW THREAD

[Colonel Sanders]

1) Theo
2) Zaust (marc)?
3) Tim_s ?
4) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
5) Agreen
6) ROC
7) ed325i
8 ) doughboy
9) jaffro
10)Ant (x2)
11)shorty73
12)rossle

[fowler]

1) Theo
2) Zaust (marc)?
3) Tim_s ?
4) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
5) Agreen
6) ROC
7) ed325i
8 ) doughboy
9) jaffro
10)Ant (x2)
11)Karan
12)shorty73
13) Fowler

[mattG]

1) Theo
2) Zaust (marc)?
3) Tim_s ?
4) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
5) Agreen
6) ROC
7) ed325i
8 ) doughboy
9) jaffro
10)Ant (x2)
11)Karan
12)shorty73
13) Fowler
14) mattG

[Theo]

1) Theo
2) Zaust (marc)?
3) Tim_s ?
4) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
5) Agreen
6) ROC
7) ed325i
8 ) doughboy
9) jaffro
10)Ant (x2)
11)shorty73
12)blitz877
13)rossle
14)fowler
15)mattG

[Onz]

I have one of these on my car and it really improved steering feel and response.

[Dan318-is]

Ok if i can get 20 purchases on these, then the price is going to be £37.50.

This will cover postage & paypal . The guibo's will be made out of 6082 grade aluminium so they should be plenty strong enough and fairly light.

There should be a prototype run this weekend.

If i include Yanninya, then i have 14 confirmed (15 with one unconfirmed) purchases, so i only need a couple more. Theo has been taken off as his will be a seperate, more expensive purchase for the prototype run.

Update you when i know more!

1) Zaust??
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6 ) doughboy
7) jaffro
8)Ant
9)Ant
10)shorty73
11)blitz877
12)rossle
13)fowler
14)mattG
15)Yanninya.

[maxfield]

1) Zaust??
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6 ) doughboy
7) jaffro
8)Ant
9)Ant
10)shorty73
11)blitz877
12)rossle
13)fowler
14)mattG
15)Yanninya.
16) Maxfield

[Dunx]

1) Zaust??
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6 ) doughboy
7) jaffro
8)Ant
9)Ant
10)shorty73
11)blitz877
12)rossle
13)fowler
14)mattG
15)Yanninya.
16) Maxfield
17) Dunx

[Trise30rally]

1) Zaust??
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6 ) doughboy
7) jaffro
8)Ant
9)Ant
10)shorty73
11)blitz877
12)rossle
13)fowler
14)mattG
15)Yanninya.
16) Maxfield
17) Dunx
18 ) Trise30rally

[Beemer Redeemer]

1) Zaust??
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6) doughboy
7) jaffro
8 ) Ant
9) Ant
10) shorty73
11) blitz877
12) rossle
13) fowler
14) mattG
15) Yanninya.
16) Maxfield
17) Dunx
18 ) Trise30rally
19) Beemer Redeemer (James)
20) Beemer Redeemer (James)

Cheers
James

[JimmyC]

hope its not for your race car James- Tut tut

[Beemer Redeemer]

hope its not for your race car James- Tut tut

Are we not allowed them ?
Bugger!

[JimmyC]

5.12. WHEELS / STEERING:

As per MSA regulations [C(b)]14 and the following;

i) The steering system including rack, tie rods and steering arms shall remain as standard.

I was wanting one myself

[agreen]

dont be girls fit them

[Dunx]

Those regs sound like its only things that effect the steering angle available not how it feels?

If you wanted I guess you could cut and stick the alloy one in the center of a rubber one or leave the head shield on so it appears as standard

[JimmyC]

If it dont say you can change it/remove it you cant, affraid its as simple as that

We have zero tolerance for cheating, thats what gives us such close, fair and affordable racing

[Beemer Redeemer]

5.12. WHEELS / STEERING:

As per MSA regulations [C(b)]14 and the following;

i) The steering system including rack, tie rods and steering arms shall remain as standard.

I was wanting one myself

bugger bugger bugger

That's a real issue with my steering at the moment. Had a complete overhaul, refurbished manual rack, new tie rods, new steering column springs and circlip, brand new rubber guibo, and the play is still in the guibo rubber. Its minimal, but as the rest of the car doesn't have a single bit of play or knocking etc etc it stands out to me like a sore thumb. Pants

Sorry guys, have to take myself of the list now.....

1) Zaust??
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6) doughboy
7) jaffro
8 ) Ant
9) Ant
10) shorty73
11) blitz877
12) rossle
13) fowler
14) mattG
15) Yanninya.
16) Maxfield
17) Dunx
18 ) Trise30rally

James

[Beemer Redeemer]

And thanks for the 'heads up' Jimmy
Appreaciated mate

[Dunx]

So standard steering wheels only aswell?

(not arguing just curious as to me personally it doesnt make sense)

[Beemer Redeemer]

iii) The steering wheel is free within MSA regulations.

The regs are here if anyone is interested....

[Dan318-is]

doh!

[tim_s]

1) Zaust??
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6) doughboy
7) jaffro
8 ) Ant
9) Ant
10) shorty73
11) blitz877
12) rossle
13) fowler
14) mattG
15) Yanninya.
16) Maxfield
17) Dunx
18 ) Trise30rally
19) Tim_s

Cheers dan

[Dan318-is]

1) Tim_s
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6) doughboy
7) jaffro
8 ) Ant
9) Ant
10) shorty73
11) blitz877
12) rossle
13) fowler
14) mattG
15) Yanninya.
16) Maxfield
17) Dunx
18 ) Trise30rally

[shorty73]

Take it I'm ok then Jimmy within the TTRS Regs?

5.5.4 Steering wheels and steering columns are free

If not I'll have to duck out as well

[Yaninnya]

This will cover postage & paypal . The guibo's will be made out of 6082 grade aluminium so they should be plenty strong enough and fairly light.
There should be a prototype run this weekend.
If i include Yanninya, then i have 14 confirmed (15 with one unconfirmed) purchases, so i only need a couple more. Theo has been taken off as his will be a seperate, more expensive purchase for the prototype run.

That is fine for me, as I said before.
Have you think about the same guibo but for E36 rack conversion? Shoud be a feew buyers as well. Just my thought.
Jan

[agreen]

Dan318-is wrote:
This will cover postage & paypal . The guibo's will be made out of 6082 grade aluminium so they should be plenty strong enough and fairly light.
There should be a prototype run this weekend.
If i include Yanninya, then i have 14 confirmed (15 with one unconfirmed) purchases, so i only need a couple more. Theo has been taken off as his will be a seperate, more expensive purchase for the prototype run.

That is fine for me, as I said before.
Have you think about the same guibo but for E36 rack conversion? Shoud be a feew buyers as well. Just my thought.
Jan

i am fitting a z3 rack (when i get my kit lool ) will this still work then ?

[Dan318-is]

This will cover postage & paypal . The guibo's will be made out of 6082 grade aluminium so they should be plenty strong enough and fairly light.
There should be a prototype run this weekend.
If i include Yanninya, then i have 14 confirmed (15 with one unconfirmed) purchases, so i only need a couple more. Theo has been taken off as his will be a seperate, more expensive purchase for the prototype run.

That is fine for me, as I said before.
Have you think about the same guibo but for E36 rack conversion? Shoud be a feew buyers as well. Just my thought.
Jan

Great idea but the problem is i have nothing to model a prototype around unless anyone has anything to offer? I have access to a few spare steering alloy arms and and old guibo to help me proportion measurements but have no such parts with regards to an e36. Its something i will definately look into when i get this buy done!

Thaks Yan

PS small update to everyone, the drawing has been cleared and the prototype should be tryed out within a week

[Theo]

i am fitting a z3 rack (when i get my kit lool ) will this still work then ?

If you fit the rack in the front mounting holes then yeah, it's spot on. If you use the rear mounting holes on the subframe the e30 uj/coupling is too long and you need to make an e30/e36 hybrid jobby.

[Dan318-is]

Aaron, i have an z3 rack on mine and it fits fine. Mine is mounted on the front holes. The holes themselves are actually used for NON pas racks on manual cars, so are there from the factory and are perfectly strong enough. My rack has been on ages and there is still no stress/shear marks and it is regularly checked. T

The car is slightly more bump steery, alas this can apparently be sorted using some spacers in a witty position although i am still to try this myself. So yes, the spacer will work fine with z3 racks as long as the front mounting holes are used.

[agreen]

thanks dan ,

[WMWNWMN]

isn't the rubber part a break away point for the steering column during a frontal impact? I'm a bit afraid of that thing becoming a painful spear aimed right at my sternum!

also what are your thoughts on this in combination with manual steering?

[Yaninnya]

isn't the rubber part a break away point for the steering column during a frontal impact? I'm a bit afraid of that thing becoming a painful spear aimed right at my sternum!

No, it's not. It is only there to absorb vibrations from the steering.

also what are your thoughts on this in combination with manual steering?

The improvement will be the same as in steering with PS.
Jan

[cypriot_boy_2k7]

put me down for one

[Colonel Sanders]

is there any downside to sing the front holes when fitting a z3 rack?

[agreen]

1) Tim_s
2) Oldroydsr4 (if price is reasonable, not more than £50)
3) Agreen
4) ROC
5) ed325i
6) doughboy
7) jaffro
8 ) Ant
9) Ant
10) shorty73
11) blitz877
12) rossle
13) fowler
14) mattG
15) Yanninya.
16) Maxfield
17) Dunx
18 ) Trise30rally
19) cypriot_boy_2k7

there you go lazy boi ! lol