did bmw make a genuine 4 door sport

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Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:47 pm

bss325i wrote:
Simon wrote:Anthracite headlining was available on late tourings too.
That i did not know. Any pics?
No, not seen one myself, it's available on the ETK, and I enquired about one a few years back, and it was about £250.
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Mate of mine who used to be on the zone (wes) had a red tourer (Think another zoner bought it off him) and that had a black roof lining :D
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:28 pm

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bss325i wrote:All sport features were availible as an option except one, black head lining, this only came with M3's, 318is's and Sports, ALL two door cars.
I had a 4-door with a black headlining as well as the other options...
Did you frag it ? :)
Yes I did funnily enough :)
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:29 pm

c2pete wrote:well thats me told then :eek: ,how can you get mtec kits for a 4 door if they didnt make them then ?so you could get a 4 door with every sport option but it wouldnt be a sport ? just a bunch of 2 door snobs if you ask me :D :D :D
No two door snobbery going on here, just pure fact. no sport was made as four door
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:31 pm

nothing wront with fourdoors...















ok fine im lying to myself, anyone with kids wanna swap shells?
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:13 am

tailoutcharlie wrote:nothing wront with fourdoors...

ok fine im lying to myself, anyone with kids wanna swap shells?
your car looked fine to me mate, shame you couldnt have joined us on our little rag
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:28 am

Well Im going to defend 4 doors. (Because I have one)

Those little 2 door things look dumpy to me. A bit like the difference between Giselle Bundchen and Dawn French.

There I tried!
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:55 am

Quick question: does a car lose its stiffness if it has 4 doors compared to a 2 door?
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:49 am

Aleksandar wrote:Quick question: does a car lose its stiffness if it has 4 doors compared to a 2 door?
No, just it's resale value and good looks ! :)
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:38 am

Aleksandar wrote:Quick question: does a car lose its stiffness if it has 4 doors compared to a 2 door?
Some 4 door cars are actually stiffer due to the extra pillar.
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Aleksandar wrote:Quick question: does a car lose its stiffness if it has 4 doors compared to a 2 door?
Some 4 door cars are actually stiffer due to the extra pillar.
glad to hear it, im only bothering upgrading suspension etc, that way i can find a nice touring or two door and track slag the fourdoor.

See they are useful for something :D
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:02 am

Simon13 wrote:4 doors are parts donors, no more no less!
I should ban you right now for comment like that ! this site was started because of the love for a 4 door :wink:


/sulking 4 door owner :P
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:woohoo:
4 door friendly team member!!!

soon us four doorers are gonna be able to vote and ride the bus an everything :D
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I remember around 10yrs ago going to see a friend trying to sell a 2dr 325 from his stock...He was moaning that everyone wanted 4drs or tourings...

I think things go in cycles...

A 2 dr may look a little cleaner than a 4 dr and weigh a little less...But for practicality (especially if you have kids and clobber to cart around) 4drs and tourings make so much more sense....

I/we have one of each: M3 2 dr, 325 4dr and 320 touring...each is good in its' own way.

I derive some satisfaction from knowing that the more 4drs that are broken for spares, the rarer they become and the more they will be sought after in the future...If only mine will last that long :wink:
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:05 pm

BreadBin wrote:
Aleksandar wrote:Quick question: does a car lose its stiffness if it has 4 doors compared to a 2 door?
Some 4 door cars are actually stiffer due to the extra pillar.
Ok then, thank you for your answers. :D So I'll then say-2 doors are pointless if you have seats in the back, it's either a 2 seater or there's a roll cage. :D
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Wonder why the first E36 was a 4 door?
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:35 pm

my 94 318 touring has black headliner

and I love my 325 4 door, it makes fitting a roll cage and shoving spare parts in the back so much easier! trying to fit 17 inch race tires, jack, tools etc in the back of a caged M3 is a real PITA! 4 door is cake
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:41 pm

daimlerman wrote:Wonder why the first E36 was a 4 door?
4 door always launches first, usually followed by 2 door, touring and finally convertible.
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:20 pm

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daimlerman wrote:Wonder why the first E36 was a 4 door?
4 door always launches first, usually followed by 2 door, touring and finally convertible.
Not so with the E30, 2dr, 4dr, convertible then touring.

I'm sure you knew that already though Chris
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:28 pm

I was vaguely aware, yes.
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Chris-W wrote:I was vaguely aware, yes.
lol!
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daimlerman wrote:Wonder why the first E36 was a 4 door?
Because there were still a few 2 door E30's hanging around???
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daimlerman wrote:Wonder why the first E36 was a 4 door?
Because there were still a few 2 door E30's hanging around???
I think it was the fact that nobody with a e30 wanted 4 doors so they slung them all on the first run of the e dirty 6 :teehee:
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daimlerman wrote:Wonder why the first E36 was a 4 door?
Because there were still a few 2 door E30's hanging around???
I think it was the fact that nobody with a e30 wanted 4 doors so they slung them all on the first run of the e dirty 6 :teehee:
Or could it be that the 4 door was more desirable and sold better?
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:37 am

Benho wrote:weighttt!
Pah, its only 20k, i could offset that by taking a crap before driving of throwing out the girlfriend.

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Benho wrote:weighttt!
Pah, its only 20k, i could offset that by taking a crap before driving of throwing out the girlfriend.

:D
Thats one hell of a crap 8O
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im full of it mate :thumb:
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daimlerman wrote:
Steve-E30 wrote:
tomson wrote: Because there were still a few 2 door E30's hanging around???
I think it was the fact that nobody with a e30 wanted 4 doors so they slung them all on the first run of the e dirty 6 :teehee:
Or could it be that the 4 door was more desirable and sold better?
In the last years of the E30, the 4dr was the best seller for most engine options.

The E21 3 series was never available in anything other than a 2dr and a Baur cabrio. On E30 launch, the 2 dr was the first as a direct replacement for the E21...

The 4 dr (and full factory cabrio and Touring) came later...partly as a result of consumer demand and partly because BMW were moving towards being a volume manufacturer.

When the E36 was released, there was a complete re-think: Firstly the coupe 2dr and the saloon 4dr bodyshells are different (whereas the E30 2dr and 4dr are very similar) with the Coupe having a wider track, too. Also, as the 4dr E30 was outselling the other versions, it made sense to release the 4dr first.

The 2dr coupe followed very shortly afterwards

The cabrio and touring, though, remained E30 style for another 18-24mths, IIRC
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My point exactly,the 4 door was more desirable. Bet BMW tarted up the 325i 2 door,called it a 'sport',in an effort to shift a few more of the unwanted 2 door shells....funny how time changes things.
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:45 pm

I was only joking guys :wink:
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