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northloop
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:46 pm

I'm not disputing the fact that they will probably work fine and be cheaper than OEM parts, just that it seems a fair bit of money for a rose, bit of bent metal, couple of bits of rubber and nuts and bolts :wink:
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:22 pm

Karan wrote:main advantage i guess is the lack of rubber bush... which is the main ppoint of rose joints aswell as adjustability
Definitely - it's always the rubber bush that fails, never the ball joint. Poor design there.
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:00 pm

northloop wrote:I'm not disputing the fact that they will probably work fine and be cheaper than OEM parts, just that it seems a fair bit of money for a rose, bit of bent metal, couple of bits of rubber and nuts and bolts :wink:
Yes but if your 20 and your a student and have no access to a car builder or a welder or rose joints or any equipment at all needed to manufacture them then its a lot easier to just not be tight and pay for a set that were developed by a proper company in my opinion.

Gareth, do they go around the rose joints then? They look pretty neat!
harry_p wrote:
are they fitted properly?

surely the rubber / plastic bits are supposed to go one either side of the arm, it looks like you've fitted the link with them both under the arm :mad:
Handpaper made this point earlier in the thread. I think the rubber parts on the bottom of the arm are meant to be spacers but like said, there seems to be no real need for them; i am thinking of replaced the long bolt that goes thorugh the arm and holds the "u" shaped bracket on with a newer, shorter one, and removing the rubber spacers, (which seemed to crush when you did them up). However, the diagram that comes with the links suggests that, like you say, the bushes should go either side of the arm although i cannot see what this would achieve?
stratos wrote:Yes altering the length has no effect on stifness of arb.
These links should be left undone untill all other suspension adjustments have been made ( ride height, camber, wheel alignment etc ).
Then with the car on a level floor connect one end and adjust so that you have clearence throughout the full range of suspension travel.
Then attach and adjust the other end so that there is no tension on the bar. This way the bar will do its job in limiting roll and have no adverse effect on spring rates.
Am i right in thinking (after a chat with demlot) that the passengers side should be attatched and adjusted so it fits perfectly first (e.g. with the car on the ground and the wheels straight), & then the drivers side should be fitted with no tension after?
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:09 pm

You got home quick :D ,

Can you feel the differance in them?
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:13 pm

dude the fuc*ing tyre isnt even here!! So pissed off!! :x

Im not entirely sure as i still have one f*cking pirelli on the front while the royal snail try to get there arses in gear and deliver my new tyre! But the car feels more responsive when you throw it from left to right simultaneously, i couldn't really tell you yet though as driving with an odd tyre fast doesn't seem like a good idea to me mate.
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:15 pm

OT did you do your sig?
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:16 pm

I did mr. G. :cool:
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:18 pm

Dan318-is wrote:I did mr. G. :cool:
Right then you can do me one dude :D
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:57 pm

Dan318-is wrote:Gareth, do they go around the rose joints then? They look pretty neat!
that's the idea. i've not used these myself but they look like a good idea.
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Post Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:42 pm

gareth wrote:
Dan318-is wrote:Gareth, do they go around the rose joints then? They look pretty neat!
that's the idea. i've not used these myself but they look like a good idea.
Will keep an eye on them but thats a mighty good find!
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Post Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:05 pm

The bushes are sposed to take away the vibration/noise thats involved with using rose joints as opposed to rubber bushes.