Worlds longest Resto, my C2 2.7 19/3/18 Vent guage action

[bss325i]

we are the guys who coopers send there out of warranty engine jobs too!

Bullshit!

The more you post the worse it gets!

so where the fu#k do you think the cars go after bmw me and tay have done engine conversions that you are only still having wet dreams about

If you read the thread properly you will see that i misread what he said and i though he said that he did Cooper BMW's warranty engine jobs.

As i said on that abortion of a sport thread, you nothing about me or what i have done or am capable of doing.

[DanThe]

Bullshit!

The more you post the worse it gets!

so where the fu#k do you think the cars go after bmw me and tay have done engine conversions that you are only still having wet dreams about

pics please

[Tay]

dear god it's even worse on here..... i'll try and get some pics up on a different page as not to p**s Simon off anymore.............

may take a while as i don't know many people who had digital cameras then i certainly didn't so will have to find the photo's and then scan them!

[Simon13]

My photos are working again to oggle. I shall get the top end stripped down today and see how bent these valves are if they are and have a play about with things.

[Andyboy]

and so it continues..........

GO AWAY.

[Andyboy]

we are the guys who coopers send there out of warranty engine jobs too!

Bullshit!

The more you post the worse it gets!

so where the fu#k do you think the cars go after bmw me and tay have done engine conversions that you are only still having wet dreams about

The only conversions you and your equally inbred six fingered mate do involves cans of Halfords paint and a 3/8 ratchet.

Now go away, fool.

[Demlotcrew]

so where the fu#k do you think the cars go after bmw me and tay have done engine conversions that you are only still having wet dreams about

To the scrap yard?

[Simon13]

i think the bores are ok, can't see any damage scoring etc up them.

The valves have been hitting the pistons so im going to strip the head down a little and play with the pulley and see just how far out i had it. It was enough to bend the valves slightly.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing "if only"

[Speedtouch]

Looking on the bright side, all this drama ensures that this thread will exceed 100 pages, rather akin to BeemerLad's ongoing epic...

[gaszman]

i have a head sat on my garage floor simon if you need 1

[beardymat]

If you can prove its the cam thats at fault then surely you have grounds for a claim, other than that you must have fudged the timing when swapping it all around from the initial 180 out. Didnt check the timing before you stripped it by any chance?

[Simon13]

i did the cambelt on the C2 wagon today and i could help but take the pulley off to have a look. Well as you can see this cam is idiot proof like the stock cams. So my question is how the fook is the supposed same camshaft from the same company drilling 2 in now?!


It still doesn't excuse my mistake but people take heed of my failing when using a schrick stick in future i think is the big lesson.

Matt i never rechecked the timing as i couldnt turn her over by hand so i knew then the game was up!!

I reckon just having a rough playabout it won't be totally crippling. I have a really really good overhauled head. All it would need is the alpina head work re doing and a reface. I reckon on about £300 to get this head tickled up into alpina spec. Its already had guides and re cut seats etc. Its not a genuine head but i'm really not that bothered about that.


Bottom end? probably best to fit 6 new slugs. If i sent them to JE or someone they could knock me up another set. Then i don't need to do any work to the block. Surely i can re use the piston rings?

Crank and block should go again, camshaft looks fine but i want to double check its the right one tbh. Rockers ok so lots of bits can be re used i think.

I reckon £1500 might get me back in business. I'm going to sell the bronzit and next time i'll just put it straight in the car. With the bronzit out the way i can get some space back to get stuck into sorting this all out.

[bss325i]

As i suspected!

You have got to email schrick!

[beardymat]

Just be sure to do the plasticene test to rule out a rogue trainee spec camshaft.

[Simon13]

/\ i think i'll do that soon when i get it back on the stand have a little play. Just so i/we know what went wrong in the right order. I think we all know really but it would be interesting to confirm. I've got lots of straight old scabby valves to use.

[glenn]

selling the bronzit will help with the costs of getting this lump sorted si

[Simon13]

indeed Glen and the manual conversion should help it sell much quicker. not many 2door 325 manuals left.

Of course the automatic parts shall fit in the boot when its sold!

[Andyboy]

Just be sure to do the plasticene test to rule out a rogue trainee spec camshaft.

Maybe use the thicker gasket as well. Depends on how much has been skimmed from the head.

The rings should go again, but can you not use early 9.75 325i pistons with the skirts shortened?

[B7]

Just be sure to do the plasticene test to rule out a rogue trainee spec camshaft.

Maybe use the thicker gasket as well. Depends on how much has been skimmed from the head.

The rings should go again, but can you not use early 9.75 325i pistons with the skirts shortened?

Won't the crown still be too high as the gudgeon pin is lower on a 325i slug. I thought one of the main things with the custom Mahle was that the pin was higher in the piston allowing the use of the 325 rods?

[Simon13]

yes the wrist pin is at a different height so the slugs come to TDC with 2.5 rods and no need for a vernier

This cloud could have a silver lining. With custom slugs we could up the CR a touch, they can be lighter etc. Get it all re balanced again with the crank. It could be epic if i time it right this time

[cecotto479]

[img]............Well as you can see this cam is idiot proof like the stock cams. So my question is how the fook is the supposed same camshaft from the same company drilling 2 in now?!

My guess would be that the engineer mistakenly drilled it wrong the first time and rather than scrap the otherwise good cam, plugged it and redrilled it in the correct place. Did I read somewhere that you had to push a plug out?

It's an acceptable engineering practice, but the plug should have been an interference fit that you couldn't get out without a press.

Do they all have two drillings? If not, you've a decent case for some compensation.

[fuzzy]

i did the cambelt on the C2 wagon today and i could help but take the pulley off to have a look. Well as you can see this cam is idiot proof like the stock cams. So my question is how the fook is the supposed same camshaft from the same company drilling 2 in now?!

idiot proof it maybe but can you break it down for the retards? what is it that im looking at here thats the obvious problem?

[Simon13]

/\ that pic is of the same spec shrick cam from my touring engine.

Now the 2 door one has 2 holes. What threw me was the plug was fitted to the CORRECT hole for the sprocket to fit to. The INCORRECT hole had no blanking on it.So fitted the sprocket on the wrong way from that. I think its a trap many would have fallen into.

As you can see below





its quite clearly here nearly flush with the end of the cam.


Do we really think its worth hassling Shrick or Neil McDonald about this? I bought the camshaft through him

[Jhonno]

1 hole to time it from..

[B7]

I think it's worth a try Si. If you don't try you will never know.

You have the perfect proof here. Allegedly the same cams but one with an extra (plugged) hole and the plugged hole WAS THE CORRECT HOLE TO USE!!!

I'd ring McDonald and advise you intend to make a complaint and then do it in writing.

Any briefs on here?

[cecotto479]

If you're adding another hole for whatever reason you're going to ensure that it's not exactly the same diameter and exactly the same position from the centre point as the sprocket locator surely?

I think it's worth asking them.

[magpie]

it's part of the bonding .

you'll fix it .

[Rodderz]

The break is quite a long way up the valve stem.. are you sure it didn't drop the valve?

[Simon13]

i need to get the other valves out the f**ked head and see how "true" they all are. Its the inlets that have had action. The exhausts all appear to be ok.

It didn't drop a valve i'm pretty sure of that.

[Martinaston]

Does it still have the collets in place on the broken stem?

Even with a second keyway in the end of the cam they would probably say you should have confirmed the correct valves were closed, sorry that's probably what you don't want to hear.

[Martinaston]

Just out of interest, when you have new valve seats fitted, How do they get the old ones out ?

[E30BeemerLad]

If you want some fancy slugs or even some custom ones doing, these are the guys to speak with

http://www.performanceunlimited.co.uk/index.htm

Thinking aloud on the cam/claim side of things..... Aren't schrick just going to say, irrespective of how many holes are in the end of the camshaft, the valvegear obviously was not timed up (with the appropriate valves open etc at TDC. I reckon they'll just say their equipment should be installed by a professional and tell you to shove it, but still worth a call.

I would still go to the guy you bought it from though, he may get further with Schrick than you.

[CHR1S1990]

I'd email them saying you've received one of their cams with 2 holes, and ask which way to fit the pulley. When they say the larger one (which fits), give them a good legal roasting!

[DanThe]

I'd email them saying you've received one of their cams with 2 holes, and ask which way to fit the pulley. When they say the larger one (which fits), give them a good legal roasting!

Thats the way to do it, nothing wrong with a bit of justified entrapment

[Simon13]

Its not a bad idea that. I'll start with neil mcdoogle first see what he says. As said i'm sure it will be f**koff and time it up properly d!ckhead. Or along those lines