Reducing transmission slack?

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Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:13 pm

My 318is has lost some of that taut springiness it had when I got it - I'd like to get it back! I'm talking about the slack you notice if you go off/on/off/on on the throttle. Not that I do that very often, but that gives you an idea of what I'm talking about! Basically I've noticed my car jolts more than it used to.

I guess some of it will be down to engine mounts, diff bush and probably some other rubbery bits I've never seen. Maybe the halfshafts and associated components also.

So, what would you replace, and in what order of importance?
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Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:38 pm

rear end bushes and bolts and brackets should have a nice over all effect. new prop parts bearings etc.

I think some new wheel bearings are great for over all smoothness but not essential or major.

in order of importance

1.subframe mounts
2. diff bush
3.suspension top mounts


they are the main things and the order varys depending on how worn your current parts are.
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Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:43 pm

Cool. Would be good to get some specific component details...
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Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:46 pm

what like?
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Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:12 pm

What are the rear end bushes and bolts and brackets you mentioned? And the new prop parts bearings etc - which parts exactly?
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Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:21 pm

your best bet is to look on real oem for part numbers for yor specific car.

a list for back end is.

suspension top mounts
Differential bush
Arb rubber mounts brackets and bolts
ARB drop links.
Rear subframe mounts
trailing arms bushes

prop center bearing
some rubber discs that lurk in to prop(cant remember the name sorry)

go on real oem on the internet and you will find all you need on the diagrams.

new diff oil would be a good idea if your replacing the above along with new brake pipes and rubber lines.
inspect the fuel tank whilst the subframe is down.

any other questions just ask

Thanks

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Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:01 pm

I've done almost everything on this list and still have a jerky car -I tested AFM recently and found its probably dodgy - am waiting for another to see if it cures the problem -so you could do a resistance check on the afm to check for problems before messing about with all these bushes. says how in the Bentley manual for e36.
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Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:21 pm

some good info here, thanks!
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Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:57 pm

Jack it up and leave it in gear then crawl underneath and see if you can rotate the propshaft by hand, if you can its down to play in the gearbox, diff or drive shafts or most likely all three.
Most likely its the gearbox bearings.
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Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:01 am

I didn't realise the gearbox bearings went -anything you can do about this? :?
Any particular mileage your box will last there is 181,000 on mine.
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Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:17 am

Get it re-built :(
You can't just replace the bearings on there own because all the gears are worn as well.
You have to fit new shims to stop the layshaft from sliding backwards and forwards to compensate for it but its a pain to measure and is basicaly trial and error each time.
I haven't got around to trying this yet and have no idea if there is a set amount of wear that they reach which makes them un-serviceable. And the thought of replacing the cogs is a bit off putting considering the cheapest one in there is over £130 on its own :-x

The cheapest option i can think of for curing it though is sawdust :twisted:
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Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:07 pm

The cheapest option i can think of for curing it though is sawdust
Ah yes the dodgy car salesman's classic! Works wonders for shot big-ends and piston slap as well, alledgedly...
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