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yes it an early car with the higher arches.Gunni wrote:beeing a early car?ed325i wrote:I know you can get 80mm springs for the back.Gunni wrote:85mm in the back?
I´ve never seen that.
What I will have to do is have a measure but as I say it sits high now due to it being so light.
measure from the center of the wheel to the arch in a 90° angle upwards.
so that changed distance is known.
It looks like it needs to be between 75mm / 80mm lowerGunni wrote:There is a 320i in my street, 100% stock, I´m going to measure it and see what the diffrence is.
How much lower would you want the car from what it is now
I didn't take into account that we are talking of two different struts, thanks for pointing that out. I am keen to put the two struts side to side to see if there is something differentDemlotcrew wrote:No the spring perch is lower down because of the tie rod lever (the bracket that bolts to the underside of the strut where the steering rack and control arm bolt onto thats called a tie rod lever) This is so that the M3 can use stock 318i springs and still have the same ride height from factory, this all means that the collar nut sits much higher than a stock E30 strut and less travel is a result of this as the collar nut sits about 2cm closer to the top perch.
Andrew
So in essence, the M3 and stock leg with the same spring will be different heights? OR the is it the travel of the shock that is limited?UweM3 wrote:I didn't take into account that we are talking of two different struts, thanks for pointing that out. I am keen to put the two struts side to side to see if there is something differentDemlotcrew wrote:No the spring perch is lower down because of the tie rod lever (the bracket that bolts to the underside of the strut where the steering rack and control arm bolt onto thats called a tie rod lever) This is so that the M3 can use stock 318i springs and still have the same ride height from factory, this all means that the collar nut sits much higher than a stock E30 strut and less travel is a result of this as the collar nut sits about 2cm closer to the top perch.
Andrew
Can you please answer two questions.
A) the M3 is using 318i springs?? shure about that?? As far as I know the M3 rides lower than any other E30 and has it's "own" springs.
(the Eibach lowering spring kit for the 318i is used for the M3 because Eibach doesn't offer a M3 specific kit)
B) the strut inserts used for the 51mm strut is the the same for i.e. 325 or M3, to my understanding that means the distance from the collar nut to the top perch has to be same. Can you explain in more detail what you mean?
Agree. But that is only "upwards" (if that makes some sense).Gunni wrote:B) That doesn´t have to be true. As the stock shocks have very long travel.
Now we are talking! I didn't want to start an argument but your thought's are exactly confirming my "findings"Gunni wrote:The real problem.
is the rubber bushing, it steals about 40mm of height, if you have the top of the shock at the same level as the top of the strut towers you would loose no travel but lower 40mm without any other changes.
It´s there for obvious reasons, maybe some other bmw ones are shorter?
I wanted to build for myself a plane plate that had a bearing in it
14mm is the e30 shock rod, 16mm is the closes bearing size so 1mm cylinder needs over the rod.
this would be a spherical bearing. and then that would be pushed into another cyl that would be welded to the plate.
so secure the bearing so it will not come out under anyload a spacer plate could be bolted to the bottom of the plate.
YES PLEASE!!!UweM3 wrote:Now we are talking! I didn't want to start an argument but your thought's are exactly confirming my "findings"Gunni wrote:The real problem.
is the rubber bushing, it steals about 40mm of height, if you have the top of the shock at the same level as the top of the strut towers you would loose no travel but lower 40mm without any other changes.
It´s there for obvious reasons, maybe some other bmw ones are shorter?
I wanted to build for myself a plane plate that had a bearing in it
14mm is the e30 shock rod, 16mm is the closes bearing size so 1mm cylinder needs over the rod.
this would be a spherical bearing. and then that would be pushed into another cyl that would be welded to the plate.
so secure the bearing so it will not come out under anyload a spacer plate could be bolted to the bottom of the plate.
the KW front strut is approx 40mm SHORTER that a OEM strut. Want to guess why?
I am going to delete the rubber mount anyway, maybe we can combine forces and get something really good of the ground.
A) If you look at the ETK you will see that M3 springs with part number 31 33 11 30 043 and 31 33 11 30 046 are fitted to both M3s and 318i'sUweM3 wrote:Demlotcrew wrote:
A) the M3 is using 318i springs?? shure about that?? As far as I know the M3 rides lower than any other E30 and has it's "own" springs.
(the Eibach lowering spring kit for the 318i is used for the M3 because Eibach doesn't offer a M3 specific kit)
B) the strut inserts used for the 51mm strut is the the same for i.e. 325 or M3, to my understanding that means the distance from the collar nut to the top perch has to be same. Can you explain in more detail what you mean?
Yea, but I´m thinking that $299 for the ground control camber AND casterBadDave wrote:Gunni
Is this what your planning fot the top mount
From CompbrakeGunni wrote:From where?
That is a good price.
I can get KW top mounts, they would be sold for 165pound + shipping.
I belive they are camber adjustable, I´m waiting for pictures.
it will allow for more suspension travel which I guess is issue on a very slammed M3 strut.oze30 wrote:would that mount solve the issue with M3 stuff?
Dont worry im just interested! Not going to be spending that, thought they might be some for a slightly less hefty price; in all the ones i have looked at in the past seem to be about £240!Demlotcrew wrote:Dan you dont need all this on a Road car!
