Cheapest place for H+R coilovers???

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:52 pm

Theres a guy at the ring does the nurburg spec 325 ones (which will fit the i.s) for about 1100 euros I think, does anyone know the best place for a deal, or might anybody be selling a good used set??
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:34 pm

Im also after a set for my 318i for next seasons pbmw champs.

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:35 pm

1100 euros is good!
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:04 pm

That is the replacement price Weeman, you have to give him straight shocks prior to them supplying yours. If not it's a 400 euro deposit :wink:
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:11 pm

Are H+R recomended then ?

im looking for a budget set realy imk new to bmw's so not sure which way to go atm.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:26 pm

a budget set of coilovers


why not go for a really good set of normall shocks and springs

is it coil overs you need esp[ecially

just an idea
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:29 pm

Which is a good set of shocks?

i thought it was easier to achieve camber adjustment with the coilovers as they are narrower?
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:29 pm

Agree with agreen, you can get as good as a coilover setup for much less money.

But unless you want to run loads of neg camber and want adjustability then it's quite pointless.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:33 pm

so which shocks are as good???

well i have heard mixed opions regarding the camber some say 5degs, some say anything more than 3 is too much!?
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:38 pm

i have just brought a k w suspension kit and am running fixed top mounts at neg 3degrees i have yet to try thins as the car is awaiting the solid bush kit from turner motorsport

good luck finding a suspension kit that works for you

speak tosal at evo s he sold me mine and we had a good chat was gonna go for the h and r cup kt but for my track needs the slighlly stiffer kw suspension kit was chosen (after much deliberation for me ) :cool:
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:40 pm

Bilstein B8 HD's with some custom springs will be as good as a coilover set up!
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:43 pm

Bilstein B8
not really i had these along with the h and r kit and k w and after a long chat with sal decided the k w was thebest for my need i surget you give sal a call he will spend as long as i takes to get the right suspension for you matey
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:47 pm

I'm talking HD's, the ones used in H&R coilovers. I do believe.
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:48 pm

Which had the greater profit margin do you think? :)
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:51 pm

Which had the greater profit margin do you think?
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a we had just finished a day of free testing and free chpping and they were very heavilly discounted as a thank you for the loan of my car for the day i dont think that really appiles

thanks for the input

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:01 pm

maxfield wrote:I'm talking HD's, the ones used in H&R coilovers. I do believe.
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a set up of bilstein B8's with matched springs will perform as good as coilovers.
the H&R e30 m3 group N spec of turner motor sport J stock springs are available off the shelf with spring rates that are set for track day/competition in mind
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:10 pm

I have a set of Grp N shocks. Might go well with the turner J stock springs....
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:45 pm

agreen wrote:i have just brought a k w suspension kit and am running fixed top mounts at neg 3degrees i have yet to try thins as the car is awaiting the solid bush kit from turner motorsport

good luck finding a suspension kit that works for you

speak tosal at evo s he sold me mine and we had a good chat was gonna go for the h and r cup kt but for my track needs the slighlly stiffer kw suspension kit was chosen (after much deliberation for me ) :cool:
I had looked at the kw kit,jimmy c has sorted a deal for the pbmw series.
how have you got on with them?how do you get the 3degrees neg camber??
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:49 pm

with fixed neg camber top mounts i have not fitted them yet as my car is in the workshop i am replcing the whole suspension new wishbones solid rear wishbone bushes sold bushes everywhere i can

courtesy of xlraceparts fooking expenive but a 318is handeling is where i i at imo

and powerflex bushes everywhere i can not get soild ones from the wishbone bushes are solid treehouse ones from uwem3

i also have som rouge engerneering rear tp mounts

just need some antiroll bars now

ohh and some wsh bone which may be oming curtessy of dazleeds

new drop links and bushes threwout should help the car andel and sold will be a massive improvement for my track car

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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:52 pm

agreen, what about rear trailing arm bushes to adjust camber there?
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:52 pm

thanks mate,sounds spot on,one last thing,top mounts,where did you get them from??
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Post Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:56 pm

max what about them i am gonna speak to dononic tomoz about the rear bushes andsee what he can offer for them as i have only prov ordered the front solid ones may even get some solid engine mounts

the rear also will have as many solid bushes as pos a powerflex where i cant get solid ones

i am interested i how the camber can be increaed on the rear max

and i got the top mounts of a guy called ptr on here i think they are also rouge enegerneering i thin he said they are from ameriaca they simply bolt onto theoriginal top mounts they are not a replament more of any additon i think you remove the studs from the top mounts and replae witht the top mount plate and then bolt the studs from the top mount into the wing i have not tried yet ill have a look this weekend

sorry for poor spelling i am in a hurry :cool:
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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:11 pm

I'v just converted my rear beam with ireland engineering camber and toe adjustment.

It requires a dye grinder and some welding but the results will be worth it and i can run a very low car with out too much rear camber.
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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:20 pm

hi oldroydsr4 hows the engine coming along? and the rest of the car?

HAve you tried the IE kit or is it ust welded up ready to go?
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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:23 pm

agreen - There is only 4 bushes on the back, subframe, trailing arm, diff and ARB. I'm assuming you're going solid with the diff? Get some Powerflex black race bushes for the subframe. ARB's you should get some uprated with an ARB kit. I would go with K-mac adjustable trailing arm bushes personally.

That's how I will have the back of my car. Oh and Rogue engineering top mounts too.
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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:21 pm

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cars coming on well, Iv just converted front struts to coilover, had the rear beam welded up as above and had the front crossmember reinforced.

Also have a set of 310mm wilwoods to go on, flocked dash and corbeau evolutions etc etc

Once this is all fitted on.

The car will be sent to Ant for the engine work.

I'm hoping to have it ready for the ring in the summer.

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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:25 pm

Oh and Rogue engineering top mounts too.
i have these ready to fit so thats good

diff ount will be solid courtesy f turner motorsport

as i cant find anywhere that does the in the uk

the other bushes you mentiones can you not get solid ones o these ##???

and what about the trailling arm i am sure i can get slid ones of thse
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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:27 pm

I can't see why you would want solid trailing arm bushes or subframe bushes.

Some Powerflex race subframe bushes.
And some K-Mac adjustable trailing arm bushes, or Ireland engineering ones. That will give you toe and camber adjustment.
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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:30 pm

K-Mac adjustable trailing arm bushes
and i can get these from ???

and did not say i wanted solid ones i just did not know what option i had
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Post Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:41 pm

dont eibach do the m another foregin company i really cant be arsed australica and there are no prices :roll:
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Post Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:33 am

I already run the Bilsteins and kw 55/55 springs and it handles great, but its higher than high, and i want it lower after mucho deliberation it seems the general view is only coilovers will drop it enough, I have already changed the springs twice, i refuse to spend anymore money on another set that might or might not make it low enough, hence the move towards coilovers.

Gary, I spoke with Raymond at Dutch power trading,the Sandtler agent in Holland, he informed me of the deposit thing.