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Hi, my name's Ned. Im 21 years of age and loved e30's for as long as i can remember. Just like to show you my pride and joy. Keep in mind i have fully restored this car with a bare metal respray and included some extra bits and pieces. Engine-wise she's still stock.

Specs:
16x7.5 Inch Hartge Wheels Stamped Made in W Germany
3.46 LSD
Hartge front and rear strut braces
Hartge Rocket Cover
Hartge Cluster (260km/h)
Hartge Front Spoiler
Hartge Side skirts
Hartge Rear Spoiler
Hartge Rear Valence Kit
Hartge Badging
Hartge Momo Steering wheel
Hartge Wooden Gear knob
Hartge Factory Decal
Hartge Exhaust System With Headers
OEM Bosch Ellipsoids Headlights
Smoked Front Flashers
325is Shadowline Window Surrounds
Eibach ProKit Springs
Bilstein Sports Shocks
45% Short Shift Kit
Factory Cloth BMW Sports Seats
Colour-Coded Mirrors, Bumpers
Rear Headrests
Series 2 third brake light and parcel tray..

Any idea how rare the h23 is in the UK? I don't have any solid facts on how many H23's were actually produced but i hear they have limited production numbers since they stopped making them to make way for H27 etc.. If anyone has any related info it'll be very much appreciated.

I cannot attach pics for some reason and i do not have photobucket.

Kind Regards,
Nadim
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Joining up to photobucket doesn't take long, where are you from mate? I'm in perth.
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Sydney NSW. I'll give photbucket a go when i get home tonight.
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:33 pm

hello again nadim,how are you?and more importantly hows the h23?good to see you have joined us on the zone.ian(h28) :D
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Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:51 pm

Hey "Hartge2get" let me know when you can get cluster photos for me.

Making a cluster writeup. Could use a quick photo of the dash for anything, hehehe *giggles* "cool". :)
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Hi Ian how's it going?? How's the e30? Im surprised there are so many Hartge's on this forum, all the others have next to none, im yet to see a clean example of the H23 though and id love to see pics of the said h35s :).

Did you manage to dig up any info on the H23 Ian?
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Nadim, I'd luurrve to see some pics of your H23 please.
How about using www.imageshack.us ?
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Im not a big fan of image hosting services. Try this link.

http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47836
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StuBeeDoo wrote:Nadim, I'd luurrve to see some pics of your H23 please.
How about using www.imageshack.us ?
Stu,how you finding Imageshack? I've given up using it,it was so slooooooooow,signed up to www.photobucket.com and found it to be a million times quicker.

Welcome to the Zone Oz man,H23 eh,sounds good,looking forward to seeing some pics her,sounds like you've put a lot of effort into it :cool: :cool:
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:35 am

hey Ned! Nice to finally see you over here!!

hows your car going?

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Hey Colin, long time no hear..

The car's going fine mate, im loving it.

Only one exception is i need a 16inch hartge wheel cap lol Haven't been seeing any on ebay.

If you come across one be sure to let me know mate!

Good catching up again.
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:21 am

yeah..

No probs bob. I'll keep my eyes out! I still ahve that horn badge somewhere if you need.
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:40 am

Ok thanks again Colin.

Nah i ended up buying one from a guy here in oz. I also managed to get my front and rear strut braces back off the PO :D HAPPY DAYS!
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:50 am

im good ned,the h28 has been put away for the winter i wont use it when theres salt about,you need to contact hartgeh27 about your h23, the guy is a big hartge fan and knows a lot about them.
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Very nice car mate. I love the white paint with the stripes. Lurvely!
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here we go:

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Hartge2get wrote:Hi Ian how's it going?? How's the e30? Im surprised there are so many Hartge's on this forum, all the others have next to none, im yet to see a clean example of the H23 though and id love to see pics of the said h35s :).

Did you manage to dig up any info on the H23 Ian?
The H23 was the lead Hartge in its day prior to the commencement of the H26.

The H23 had 170ps which came at a price fitted by Birds of over £3.3k in its day. CC produced was 2316 as per normal and the head conversion gave a 0 - 100kmh figure of 7.4 sec whilst the 0 - 1000km was 28.2 sec.

The car came with Hartge finned and stamped cam cover, optional Hartge bodykit (ie front and rear, side skirts and rear spoiler) and the early cars sat on 14 inch BBS whilst the later H23 sported the 7.5 x 16 on Hartge 11 spoke classics. Hartge leather steering wheel and gearknob and again an optional part the mono wiper.

From the archive I dont see any uprgrade in the ARBs which were fitted to H26s and on.

HTH if you have any specific question(s) please fire away !!!
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Yes I have specific questions!

CLUSTER PHOTOS!!!
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:34 pm

Nadim. That's really nice. :clap:
I remember when the H23 was rolled-out. I had always liked the look and spec. of the Hartge BMW's. An H23 would have been my ultimate car back then.
Actually, it probably still is - I still prefer the 323i to the 325i.
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Really like that, and by the sounds of it you have most of the hartge goodies too. :D
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Hey guys thanks for the sweet comments, i worked hard to get her into this shape, she's real special to me. Fav thing about the car: The verrry lumpyy idle mmmmm.

HartgeH27: Few more questions for you. :p

-Any idea how many H23's were produced worldwide?

-I have a somewhat unique engine number on my car completely different to any m20b23 engine number i've seen before. Mine only consists of 6 numbers ending in 123. Could this be a sign that it's genuine or maybe just coincidence.

P.S I might have more questions later :cool:
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Hello and welcome, seriously cool car :drool:
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Magnificent.

It's a credit to you, Hartge2get. Congrats on owning and treasuring something so wonderful.
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Is that the Eastern Suburbs area with the white railing? The Bondi possibly??

And what happened to your number plate? why did you lose the BMW 23H?? Im dreading the ugly plates now!! just don't suit the cars anymore! :(
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Nah the photos were taken at wollongong.

And i have the plates, the yellow plates were the old ones :)
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How much would a bare metal respray of that quality on a car like that cost then?
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Very Nice Motor Mate :cool:
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Ablice wrote:Yes I have specific questions!

CLUSTER PHOTOS!!!
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Ablice wrote:Yes I have specific questions!

CLUSTER PHOTOS!!!
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Are they genuine gauges someone has ruined with a stupidly sized, spaced and placed Hartge sticker? They don't look very genuine but you are the expert and I don't know jack about hartge.
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Love you too !!!

LOL they were as originally fitted, have photos going back quite early on the car and the sticker is a little bit of my chaviness coming througha..................but I do come from Essex !!!!!

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Hi nadim, or hartge2get, just a question but do you work at Sydney Wide European Autos? Because I was speaking to a guy on the phone there who had restored an e30 hartge a little while ago.
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march109 wrote:Are they genuine gauges someone has ruined with a stupidly sized, spaced and placed Hartge sticker? They don't look very genuine but you are the expert and I don't know jack about hartge.
Gareth, they are genuine gauges from a genuine Hartge H27 - owned by Iain, hence his Zone name... :D

The badge is just Iain's Essex girl bit coming out... winkeye
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crackin car mate i love the hartge h23s

theres a set of hartge caps on ebay.de at the moment not sure what size they are either that if you have probs ive maya hartges email address she sorted me out with a set last year
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