Alpina e28

[anisotropy]

This looks the sex
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1983-BMW-E28-Alpi ... dZViewItem
is it real?

[StuBeeDoo]

Call to Sytner with the reg. no. will confirm it.
Even if it isn't, it looks like it's got some nice morsels on.

[slinky]

Very nice

[Andyboy]

They are such a lovely thing to drive. I had a red one a couple of years back (the first RHD B9) and I wish I still had it. If that's solid and can be bought for £2000 that wouldn't take much to make nice again. That one is definitely genuine as well.

[Simon13]

awsome looking chariot

[A1BMW325iSport]

verrrry nice, classic e28

[bss325i]

I would love one of these so much!

3 grand seems a bit steep though for the condition.

[anisotropy]

Yeah thats a lot of money for any car that needs welding to pass the MOT. Still would have a look if I had the cash though.

[StuBeeDoo]

Yeah thats a lot of money for any car that needs welding to pass the MOT.

How many 25 y.o cars have you ever seen that haven't had any welding?
Come to that, how many 25 y.o cars do you ever see full-stop?

If that's solid and can be bought for £2000 that wouldn't take much to make nice again. That one is definitely genuine as well.

If I was in the market for an Alpina E28, I'd say it's worth the money and the effort to get it road-worthy again. You never know, the BIN could be a bit tongue-in-cheek.
Wonder what the reserve is? I'll keep an eye on it.

[old_skool]

That is a very nice thing. I have asked the owner a few questions about it, so we'll see what happens?

According to the Holy book of Alpina, there were 84 early models, followed by 416 later models. Anyone know the differences?

[bss325i]

That is a very nice thing. I have asked the owner a few questions about it, so we'll see what happens?

According to the Holy book of Alpina, there were 84 early models, followed by 416 later models. Anyone know the differences?

Early ones used a 528i as a base car and were approx 240bhp and the later ones used a 535i as a base car approx 260bhp iirc.

[bss325i]

Yeah thats a lot of money for any car that needs welding to pass the MOT.

How many 25 y.o cars have you ever seen that haven't had any welding?
Come to that, how many 25 y.o cars do you ever see full-stop?

If that's solid and can be bought for £2000 that wouldn't take much to make nice again. That one is definitely genuine as well.

If I was in the market for an Alpina E28, I'd say it's worth the money and the effort to get it road-worthy again. You never know, the BIN could be a bit tongue-in-cheek.
Wonder what the reserve is? I'll keep an eye on it.

Yes true most cars over 25yrs old have had/need welding but from the pictures that car needs a rear panel, bootlid, repair to the arches, a repair to the rear scuttle and you know when you start to pull it apart there will be more. As i said £3k is a bit steep for the condition but it does look complete which is always good with alpinas and it has the rarer alpina striped interior whith scheel front seats.

[StuBeeDoo]

Well, it's now up to £2.5k - reserve has been met - and still nearly 9 days to go!

[anisotropy]

shiiit

[bmw-mad]

shiiit

Take that back!

They are stunning cars i have had quite a few e28 M535i's and a e28 alpina b2.2.8 1983 y reg car was rotten to bits but it still drove lovely ended up going to the car heaven. This one is a genuine one

[anisotropy]

I meant shiiit as in shiiit I love the shiiit out of that but shiiit obviously lots of other people want one too. I think I've developed some kind of strange fetish for e28s and e21s I can't stop thinking about them... maybe I should go to see a hypnotist or something.

[Rosc0PColtrane]

/\/\ Me too..

[jam172]

That is a very nice thing. I have asked the owner a few questions about it, so we'll see what happens?

According to the Holy book of Alpina, there were 84 early models, followed by 416 later models. Anyone know the differences?

The original b528i had no mods to the engine or suspension, cosmetics only.

The B9 had Alpina suspension alpina engine and gave ITRO 240+BHP

The B10 had all of the above and gave in excess of 260BHP.

This particular car needs extensive work, that said it has been on Ebay several times and can you afford to be choosy with so few around?

[Andyboy]

The B2.8 was based on a non SE 528i with LSD. Sytners added B9 suspension (springs and Bilstein shocks), exhaust, front and rear spoilers, the wheels, steering wheel. gearknob and a badge plus a numbered plaque. The exhaust gave 8 bhp apparently. The first one was built in '83 and the very last one in 1986 - it was a total flop and only 20-30 were converted.

The B9 came out in late 1982, all the above stuff but with a 245 bhp version of the E12 3453cc engine. This was changed to the E23/E24 3430cc engine in mid 1983. These were ALL based on a 528i and none have the plastic M535i type spats although mine had them added at a later date.

The B10 arrived in late 1984 with the early cars still based on a 528i. From early 1985 both 535iSE and M535i cars were used and these can be identified from the plastic arch trims. 260 bhp engine with a higher rev limit and M5/M6 conrods plus more head.cam work.

[fozzymandeus]

Quote:

"I do not want to swap for a good r5 gtt wink wink"

Either he's insane or it's our E30zone Messiah!!

[old_skool]

The B2.8 was based on a non SE 528i with LSD. Sytners added B9 suspension (springs and Bilstein shocks), exhaust, front and rear spoilers, the wheels, steering wheel. gearknob and a badge plus a numbered plaque. The exhaust gave 8 bhp apparently. The first one was built in '83 and the very last one in 1986 - it was a total flop and only 20-30 were converted.

The B9 came out in late 1982, all the above stuff but with a 245 bhp version of the E12 3453cc engine. This was changed to the E23/E24 3430cc engine in mid 1983. These were ALL based on a 528i and none have the plastic M535i type spats although mine had them added at a later date.

The B10 arrived in late 1984 with the early cars still based on a 528i. From early 1985 both 535iSE and M535i cars were used and these can be identified from the plastic arch trims. 260 bhp engine with a higher rev limit and M5/M6 conrods plus more head.cam work.

That's very informative.

Did the Alpina striping and Scheel (I assume it's Scheel) trim come as an option in addition to standard B9 spec then? Or was the interior a standard fitment and the stripes an option?

On the subject of the DEKO stripes, talking to Zimmerbimmer yesterday, he tells me that the B9 stripe set was only available in silver or gold, does this make the blue/green sets an aftermarket item then?

[Simon13]

yes! OE alpina are gold or silver, but at the time this was built they might of been in any colour as some earlier E21's,e12's and the like had all sorts of colours!

[Andyboy]

The early B9's had the Scheel A.S.S seats, but by '84 you could just have standard BMW sports seats. The stripes were an option with early cars having the fat stripes and later ones from mid '84 had gay pin stripes.

[old_skool]

Hmmm, this is all very interesting indeed.

Talking of the engine, would this engine have an Alpina engine cover, moreso to the point, is there a way of reliably proving the engine is the right one? I understand that 'back on the day' the B9 was more expensive than a standard spec. Porsche 911 - is that right?

[Andyboy]

Yes, they were about 22 big ones. The cam cover is a stain black painted standard item and you want to see a four or five digit number stamped into the head on the inlet manifold side just below the cam cover.

[old_skool]

Yes, they were about 22 big ones. The cam cover is a stain black painted standard item and you want to see a four or five digit number stamped into the head on the inlet manifold side just below the cam cover.

Quality information again. Thank you Mr. E.

Let's see what it ends up making now then

[anisotropy]

He's changed his mind. Don't blame him, perhaps he'll fix it up and sell it on later when I have some money spare

[Andyboy]

I love E28's even though most of them are now buckets of shit. The E34 was a better car (handling, ride, build quality) but an E28 - once hideously old fashioned - has become a classic IMO. A sorted manual 535i is a beast.

[anisotropy]

They're great looking cars now. I'll be on the lookout for an m535i or similar when I have some cash. Love the look of the e12 m535i too. Though much rarer and probably a lot more work.

[Gortour]

Very pretty car, the E28. I love the looks personally.
Lovely car to drive too, but can't get on with the steering, always feels wierd.
I've driven 2x etas, 3x 520is, 2x 528is, and all feel the same. Seems very heavy and unprecise.
Are the 535s / M5s any different? Not had the privelage of driving one of those yet.

(The E12, although heavier than E30, still feels fine, as does the E34, only the E28 and equivalent 6 series feel strange...)