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Post Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:56 am

I'm running my 335 with a single Scorpion rear silencer and it isn't that bad noise wise. Not compared with other cars I've had anyway but might struggle with some track day noise limits!

People tell me it sounds good but I've never heard it from outside the car! :?

I've got videos on cd that my passenger took when we went to LeMans, I'll try and load some up if you don't mind me spamming your thread!?

Hopefully it might give you even more motivation if they are any good! :D
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Post Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:59 am

Wow I want pics real bad! It sounds nice mate! :cool:
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Post Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:19 pm

my 335i is amazing :twisted:

it works! it drives it beats 350z's! well it was a good race in a straight line.

fan needs sorting with a switch and the power steering has no fluid but i will get it all done.

engine has moved a bit from what i wanted but.

3inch exhaust with 1 small box is load!

right im off to newcastle :? im scared. pics later.




it runs it runs.




i wil tell all later its time to drive :D oh yes.


thanks to all esspecially Andy.


no time got to go! YEAH
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Post Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:25 pm

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Well done guys!

Have fun Ric! :D
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Post Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:00 am

lol

don't crash it Ric! :D
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Post Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:04 am

got to bleed the power steering before the rolling road and get some big wire for my fan.


what a strange power delivery!

and my rev counter doesnt match at all!!!!!!!

it can run it off past 7000 or something stupid? hum?

sideways goodness. right bleed power steering and off to hellfrauds for some wire see if i can getto the rolling road?




guys thanks for the help


didnt drive it to newcastle as it was late and if it broke i would be screwed!


i will get some pics up but i have things to do now.
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Post Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:24 am

nice one!!!

sounds like your instrument cluster has a 4 pot coding plug maybe? a 6 pot has 50% more sparks per rev than a 4 pot so it will read 50% high. (eg, engine at 2000rpm, tacho reading 3000rpm)
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Post Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:42 am

do you want me to send u a 6cyl coding plug Ric, that's def what's wrong with it. got loads of the bloody things kicking around. pm me an address if you want :D
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Post Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:12 pm

:cool:

Whens the RR ?
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Post Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:28 pm

oh dudes i have finnally moved to manchester!

1 trip in my dads toyota and one load trip in my 335i :D

i went to the rolling road but i never got on as there was plenty of people there, which was fun, nice to see some faces.

but i got there late as i was making a heat shield for my drive shaft, still got to see busters car running which put a big smile on my face :D

i think i will but a small centre box to nock some noise off as my girlfriend doesnt like the noise :evil:

it is too load.





but it goes so sideways! i have had my mates out in it and they love it!

i drove it a took it a bit easy as the revs were strange (pm sent in 2 secs toby) but then i nailed it and revs round to 7/8/9000 revs and :burn:


then i got out and let andy have a go and :twisted: i just watched as he NAILED it!

good it sounds good!

i can make some vids but its different now i live in manc.
keep watching guys i will get this sorted!

pics tomorrow night. :D
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Post Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:54 pm

Cool, get some vids up ! :)
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:03 am

not problem!

i just feel wrong in manchester flooring it when its so load! plus its been a complete mule since its been finished! lugging my stuff (and mostly the girlfriends stuff) all over the place.

when i get the fan hooked up through a relay - some how managed to blow one relay after a small fire 8O i need to get hold of another as a 30amp relay just wont do....that burns out too :? bloody fan.


i dont think the cooling is bled right as the temo keeps moving up slightly on the motorway past the 3/4 mark :?

it will sit at 3/4 with no fan at 70 but then after a while it will rise? bit of a pain really.

could be bot bled
maybe the bends in the rad hoses are too tight? restrict flow?

umm?

but once the fan is on it runs at half way nice. need the relay done.
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:06 am

Great work dudes! :cool:


But I would try and avoid getting an M30 too hot for long.

I found putting the heater on full helps in this situation (and opening the windows so you don't roast alive!).
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:08 am

would do that but the blowers have stopped working? same for the electric windows! only work when doors are open

why i dont know?

putting the fan on a manual switch i may have to do the same with the blowers?
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:13 am

If you get constant hot air out of your heater it should be free of air locks
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:14 am

there's a reason for that. it's to do with the heavy electric loads being temporarily turned off when you crank it, and you need to connect a wire from a terminal on the starter to the round multi plug. someone else will have to tell you exactly which though :D
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:14 am

I know why! :D

The green and black wire from pin 15 on the C101 loom plug on the bulkhead needs to go to one of the tiny little earth connectors on the starter motor - a very easy modification.
There is another way to bypass it but this is the best way as it feeds to an unloader relay which prevents the windows, heater and electric sunroof working when the starter is cranking. :wink:
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:50 pm

DRIFTBOY wrote:I know why! :D

The green and black wire from pin 15 on the C101 loom plug on the bulkhead needs to go to one of the tiny little earth connectors on the starter motor - a very easy modification.

sorry i stopped replying last night the girlfriend dragged me to bed :P

oh gentlemen good work with the electrical help! i will let you know how i get along.

c101 sounds like the big plug which is the loom needs dissecting?

sounds easy i will cut into the lower section which will be the 318i part and find the green/black wire. connect a wire to one of the starter motor nuts.

cheers chaps.

im having problems with my 535i AC fan. im using that fan as the rad fan but i cant get it too work with a relay? right now i have to watch the nedal and if it gets to high i connect 2 wires together which get hot real quick. :cry:

so i have to disconnect them fast.

i am going to try with a new switch and a new relay (40amp) see if it works?
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:24 pm

ric325i wrote: sorry i stopped replying last night the girlfriend dragged me to bed :P
winkeye


C101 is the big plug where engine and body loom meets.

I forgot you started with a 318.
I started with a 325 so I'm not 100% sure if the green/black wire is the same on your body loom as mine. :?

It's quite easy to pull back the rubber boot and have a peep inside though. :)
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Post Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:34 pm

cheers man.

the original plan was to start with a 325 but the body was rotton.

i will take a look tomorrow as i have been doing so much recently i could not get to the car.

its strange not spending all my time with the car like i have for the last 3 weeks.

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y-piece from jetex, most parts from jetex just not the long tube. all 3 inch.

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squash to get past rear frame

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back box is a jetex centre box and is smaller than i thought. :?

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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:36 pm

got the fan on a switch :D i thnk teh last fire i had burnt the relay out :roll: oops


also thanks to the boys for giving me the ifo for the blowers 8) forgot i had reconnected the battery so i made a few sparks on the starter motor :? :D

oh and after toby sent me 3 of teh rev counter things i found the right one 1st time :D class teh one i had was a 003 so i found the 002 and bingo, the revs make sense again!

sweet

i also took a quick video which i will upload in just min, its not great but it should be good for engine noise :twisted:
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:54 pm

ok here is the video

its actually really pants but i have to post it anyway.

http://s209.photobucket.com/albums/bb13 ... =manc1.flv


here are some pics

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sweet!

the strut barce is point less but i paid £16 inc postage so it has to go on - get what you pay for hey.

love teh car!
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:17 pm

guys help with my fan please.

i have followed a diagram i made over the phone but the problem is the the relay is getting too hot :?

here is a pic of how i have done it.

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now if i heard if i move the relay closer to the fan it wil take more of the load? so will it get hotter? or will it be cooler?

here is my idea

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will it make a difference ir will this run hot anyway?

40amp relay i have also posted this in teh tech help but i think everyoe is at the pub watching the footy?
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:33 pm

i'm not, bloody football!

that should work fine mate, that's how mine has been for ages. what colour is the relay?
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:46 pm

the relay is a 40amp black thing from maplins.

your right about the bloody football. but i have judge dread on in the back ground 8)

cheers for the rev counter thing. it works a treat now, i had a good test in it winkeye


so if i move the relay closer to the fan will it be cooler? or should i stick it out the window and hope for the best? :mad:
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:39 pm

How thick is the wiring ?

The earth and the switched positive just needs normal/average thickness wire but the one from the battery and to the fan need to be chunky gauge wire.

Where have you mounted the relay ?

I've got mine where the old DME/fuel pump relays were, by the pasenger side strut top, i've taken the main positive feed from the starter motor.

Car sounds beefy ! 8)
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:46 pm

Andy335Touring wrote:
Car sounds beefy ! 8)

oh yes it does.



will the power from the starter motor be les than dirrect from the battery?

wire is 30amp all round and the relay is located in the drivers foot well.


its all on the drivers side as the earth for teh fan is rthat side and i have good gromit to put the wires through.

if i put all teh wires shorter and in the engine bay (where battery should be) would this decrease the heat in the wires?

thing is if i put the relay in the engine bay i cant monitor the heat.
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:59 pm

Battery in the boot ? Are you running a wire all the way through to the boot ?

My wiring/relay is on the N/S so it was handy to run the wire from the starter rather than all the way around the engine bay to the battery, it's a good feed point to pick up on as the supply wire can flow plenty of amps.

I think it's normal for the wiring/relay to get warm(not hot) due to the high amps ?
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:05 am

I flippin' hate football too, I was watching a documentry about DeLorean but fell asleep just before the end! :roll:

I've got my fan wired a little different to that.
I would scan in a diagram but I have no scanner! :(

I'll try and describe -

From relay-
Pin 85 - Earth
Pin 30 - +12v positive (fused -30A)
Pin 87 - Fan - power
Pin 86 - Switch - +12v (fused 3A)

Hope that makes sense!
I've never had a problem running this set up, and I've done it this way on several cars.


Does sound good dude! 8)

Get a made to video from outside the car! :D
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:16 am

as soon as i can get out the city i will get some videos winkeye


yeah battery is in teh boot, i used the 325i se set up. its a big cable from the battery to where the battery should be (engine bay) that has a connector for the big wire to the starter motor.

its the bmw way :D

so i have been using the positive connector there.

i think both are systems should work its just toby mentioned about a lower load if i can locate the relay closer to the fan?

i will give it a go, i have toi ask because the power wire connector to the relay gets mega hot. the relay gets warm and the wire does, im sure its fine but the connector shopuld not be that hot.

lots of tape maybe? :?
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:46 am

That sounds awesome mate! :cool:
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:59 pm

my fan wiring uses a E32 aircon 2 speed fan switch with the E32 low speed resistor and 2 relays. the wiring is essentially the exact same setup as the E30 aircon had apart from the fans which are from a shitroen bx (the donor E32 fan was dead)! they're all positioned within the original fuse box in the correct locations! yes i am anal and no there are not any spare spaces in the fuse/relay box any more!

the advantage of the way is did it is the slow speed (needed 95% of the time that the fans are on) is through a large resistor so draws less current and the wiring all runs cooler. at full chat, the load is spread between 2 relays and 2 loads of wiring, again cooler than just one relay

the wiring is all shown on here: - fuse compartment shown most of it. relays K1 and K6.
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Post Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:36 pm

guys thanks for the help the fan worked a treat! i may put in another relay just to hold the temp as you guys seem to be doing this.

but the major issue and it has pi**ed me off royally is that i think i have broke my 335i?
:x


so i was on the way to the leeds festival doing a high revving 70mph when i noticed the water temp go up steadily 8O

major panic and an attempt to get off the motorway asap

i think the needle may have got into the red (? maybe not ?) before i switched the engine off and drove down the exit slip road and tried to stop.

major fear and i opened the bonnet










water pissing out one of the hoses on the thermo :cry: big crack :cry: very hot water spraying out the split :cry:


i dont know if i saved it or not but i couldnt bleed it? i had 8 litres of water in the car as i needed it for the festival - incase the beer ran out.

the beer didnt run out so i didnt mind using the water.

so i tried to patch up the rad hose with some electricians tape and then set about bleeding the system ( i hate doing it as i never know if its done right?)

but after a while the water just started shotting out the header tank.

i think there was a air block or something?

so drove I it to a garage that i found and let him take a look.
he tried to bleed it lots but to no avail :cry:

i had a 1 hour drive on A and B roads stopping when the temp got up slightly and filling the car with more water.

dont know if the head gasket has gone? i couldnt bleed the thing?

any ideas?

this is the pipe and my fix it job.

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guys will it be the gasket as the reason why i cant bleed it?

oh there is no thermo ion the thermo housing.
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Post Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:39 pm

Ah ric!

Congratulations-long time coming and nice to see the hard work paying off!
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Post Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:44 pm

thanks man but i think i was writing the last post as you wrote your post.

thanks though man :)
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