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Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:54 pm

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JohnnyThunders wrote:Interesting thread and as much as i love e30s i would trade mine for any solid 911 in the blink of an eye. An undeniable classic. I wouldn't care about racing. :)
was a watercooled one :(

1985 turbo targa in white, please :D
I have really loved the classic 911 since i watched Condorman, I sooooo wanted the flat fronted 911 the silver eyed badguy drives. (probably prefer the henchmens standard ones now though). And yes i would have blacked out windows, on a 911 its not council its menacing!

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if i was ever beaten in a race by a french piece of cr*p i would probably either get out and torch my car in the street or crash and pretend my propshaft has snapped from all the torque, so far i have not had to do this... :twisted:
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the saxo vtr aint all that 90bhp but the vts is the one to watch out for 120bhp
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:33 pm

I came across this little beauty at silverstone, it was for sale and i would have bought it too, but i couldnt quite afford the 40.000 asking price.... :eek:


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My best mate has a 3.6ltr 996 911 and i'd never thought of them as a properly quick car untill he let me have a blast in it. I can honestly say it is a properly fast motor.

Not as uber reliable as I thought it would be as picture shows (£25,000 vs £3000 car and his bonnets up more than mine :teehee:)

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Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:07 am

Stifla wrote:I came across this little beauty at silverstone, it was for sale and i would have bought it too, but i couldnt quite afford the 40.000 asking price.... :eek:


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Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:57 am

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320Touring wrote:
JohnnyThunders wrote:Interesting thread and as much as i love e30s i would trade mine for any solid 911 in the blink of an eye. An undeniable classic. I wouldn't care about racing. :)
was a watercooled one :(

1985 turbo targa in white, please :D
I have really loved the classic 911 since i watched Condorman, I sooooo wanted the flat fronted 911 the silver eyed badguy drives. (probably prefer the henchmens standard ones now though). And yes i would have blacked out windows, on a 911 its not council its menacing!

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Yeah.

I remember that film"condom man" with michael crawford "oooh betty".

Condom-mans car was one of those shite nova kit cars. With a pinto in the back probably.

The porsches were the bollocks of course.
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:51 am

tommype30cab wrote:if i was ever beaten in a race by a french piece of cr*p i would probably either get out and torch my car in the street or crash and pretend my propshaft has snapped from all the torque, so far i have not had to do this... :twisted:
I will warn you now so you dont have to burn your car, stay away from the twisties then.

I used to have a 106 rallye and round the bends there wasnt much that could keep up including a 280bhp legacy twin turbo 4 wheel drive. On the straights it detsoyed the pug admittedly, but cornering was unbelievable in the little blighter.

The saxo vtr is the 1.6 8v 90bhp jobby and the vts is the 120bhp 16v which is the same as the 106 gti.

As munky mentioned these cars come into their own when their not kitted to f00k chav style and the power to weight really comes into play :twisted:

I would definately have another rallye but when I've got somewhere to fix it as it was always breaking :roll:
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:28 am

Weren't the flat nosed porkers a Ruf conversion?

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sorry: Off topic - What does FTW mean, seen it loads but no idea :o:
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:35 am

For The Win.

It means it's the best or if you make a comment that 'trumps' another person, you add FTW to the end. Or if you point out something that is funnier that what everyone else has pointed out, then you add FTW to the end. Check Urban Dictionary
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for the win.
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:42 am

The e30 is all about the ride and handling imo. Power comes with mods, but even a standard 325i has such a great feel. I love the way you put it into a corner and it goes round so balanced and neutral. There's so much feedback through the wheel, no torque steer and the ability to make any little adjustments to the line with a little extra squeeze on the loud pedal. OK, you're not actually going that fast compared with many modern machines, and its far far easier to chuck a Fiat Coupe/GTI/Pug or something WWD into a corner and scrabble it round without danger but the e30 just rewards you far more. I also like the way that the standard suspension handles the bumpy country roads round here without the car feeling like its going to shake itself to bits - but that's probably not something that Munky has kept ;)
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standard suspension sucks. If your fillings aren't rattling, you're not having fun.
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:54 am

the flat nose 911 is a 935 and was a special race breed turbo and was seriously fast, not ruf they all look like 911s with avev as' on and are stupid power fast

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This is the 935 Power of this was 895bhp (link if Pic Dont Work for you http://www.shanghaif1racing.com/index/2 ... mg/027.JPG)


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A Couple of RUFs' The CTR (The yellow one) is 469bhp and the CTR2 (silver) 580bhp (Link if pic dont work http://www.germancarrepair.com/images/ruf03.jpg)
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That's one powerful red x!!
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:47 pm

i take it you cant see the pics, they seem to work for me, can anyone else see them,
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1st pic works now :screwy:

Are those the turbos mounted by the exhausts??
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:49 pm

If you want to win races why have a E30?

Imo E30's give you a rewarding drive. You feel like youve driven somewhere in a E30, saxos and shit just feel raged.

Wana win races then do what fuzzy did or even beter but a R32 GTR :cool: then again I do know of a Rover Tomcat smoking a 106 gti and Saph cossie :eek:







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gents- proper taste :cool:
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want to win races but a m3
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:09 pm

andye30nut wrote:want to win races but a m3

Great car!! But race winner? Most cars on the road yes... GTR driven right no chance.

Amazing machine though and maybe the ultimate driving experance 8)
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:13 pm

E30 M3 does not cut the mustard either in traffic light GP's...

On the track is a different kettle of fish...
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:32 pm

I was with a mate the other week in his Alfa Romeo 156 V6 24 valve.

We had a 911 pull up next to us at some lights and the Alfa matched it away from them!

Only thing is, with the windows down, it was most obvious the 911 had a slipping clutch! :D

Some gorgeous 911s going on here, I was lucky enough last year to drive a 996 911 Turbo (with four wheel drive and twin turbos) at Preston Hall track. I've always been a Lamborghini nut but that Porsche has left me a different and distracted person! 8O Absolutely stunning car to drive quickly.
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:45 pm

Get real Gents,
I have owned a couple of Porsches,i was driving a 996 Turbo S last saturday,prefer the Audi RS4, only the E30 M3 would come close to some of the older non 911 Porsches.

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Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:01 am

Frenchy wrote:Get real Gents,
I have owned a couple of Porsches,i was driving a 996 Turbo S last saturday,prefer the Audi RS4, only the E30 M3 would come close to some of the older non 911 Porsches.

Wake up smell the coffee!
I'm real allright- just wanted to see some 325 drivers finally state that they aint all THAT fast :D :wink:
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Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:06 am

porsche's make the best victims in the traffic light GP races

i've had many over the years diveing e30's. :D
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csl m3 could do the job
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Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:56 am

911 no chance. But a 325 will beat a 106 gti 0-60. 106 gti is 8.7 while the 325 is 7.2. It will also thrash a saxo vts which is basically the same car as the 106 gti. This is all from tech specs btw.lol.

As for saxo VTR's, well they are rather slow. Even my iS will beat them.

However, im talking about straight line. Twisties would make a difference.lol

But my mini should get em straight line and corners. :twisted:
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Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:07 pm

haha! When i had my 320i i didn't think i was fast, i was happy to tootle round enjoying the sound and not expecting anything. I expected the 325i to own. As it happens yea its reasonably powerful and nicer to drive, but imo its not fast atall, a standard modern 1800 would give it a run for its money. Even in the day Maestros, Toyotas and Pugs were faster.
On reflection i think i was lulled into the zones imaginative "padding" of the 325s speed.

325i's are not fast! - there i have said it. :D
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Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:10 pm

Hehe, they aren't but they sound dam good and are much cooler than any french/italian hot hatch anything.lol Well i know what id rather have.
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Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:53 pm

munky30 wrote::rofl:

Yes... welcome to the wonderful world of power to weight ratio's. Which, in a traffic light gp/drag race, are all that matters. Well, that and gearing, which is why my car wont be beaten by the aforementioned frnech/italian sh*te. winkeye
dunno about that

would say weight distribution and tyres (temps, compound and pressure) make a noticable difference too
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Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:40 pm

Kos wrote:porsche's make the best victims in the traffic light GP races

i've had many over the years diveing e30's. :D
Dont tell me kos. In the i.s yeah?.... :)
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was it broken?
yep the guy was pushing it lol
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