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This is my project 335, wanted to get it all done for under a grand and keep the chrome sleeper feel. so far I've spent 650 including the purchase of the turd.
In the beginning

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starting the strippng
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some new wheels
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front end painted,chrome sorted and smilies fitted
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fuel pump fitted and extra pipe plumbed in ( car was a 316 carb so no electric pump)
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golf servo

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525e diff
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E32 aircon fan
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Audi A6 2.8 back box

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rear disc conversion, rear arb and some underseal sorts out the back underneath, oh yeah and new brake lines
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Patiently waiting for its lump
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engine and rad finally in and the end is in sight
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coil moved and battery stuck in the boot
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front end on larger diameter struts mtech springs and thicker ARB,rear end still on standard shocks and springs, for the moment.

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comments welcome

cheers for looking

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Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:59 pm

john, thats awesome. Im literally just behind you in the conversion. Got my engine in today, mine was also a 316, can you elaborate on how youve sorted the fueling? Ive plumbed an inline fuel pump, just wondered if youve swaped the tank to an injection version. Im intrested in your diff choice also, explain? im using the standard one for now (rev limiter at 110mph anyone?). Cheers Alex btw do you work at halfords?
Im a two car man. Shame my bike gets used more.Damn the MOT!
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e30Alex wrote:john, thats awesome. Im literally just behind you in the conversion. Got my engine in today, mine was also a 316, can you elaborate on how youve sorted the fueling? Ive plumbed an inline fuel pump, just wondered if youve swaped the tank to an injection version. Im intrested in your diff choice also, explain? im using the standard one for now (rev limiter at 110mph anyone?). Cheers Alex btw do you work at halfords?


hello mate, mine is a pre facelift m10 engined one, the tank is the origional with an E30 m40 engined, in tank pump fitted ( fits in the same hole as the sender) then I fitted an extra pipe for a fuel return.
The diff is off an E28 5 series 525e. This diff is only really any good if you are using a dogleg box from a e28 m535i. If yours is a normal box I would go for a 3.64 diff from a early 325i. Spotted the jack eh? :wink: Useless piece of crap that is.

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:13 am

Good work dude! :cool:

Looks like you've got a few bargains worked out there!

I like that colour, haven't seen many in that shade!

Have you got much else planned for the 335?

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Jeremy Clarkson wrote:...but it drives the front wheels. Theee wrooong wheels!
da4x4turbo wrote:I raced a vivaro on the motorway once in a 318is.... and lost!!!
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Cheers Driftboy

'Cheap as chips' Speaking of which will probably be the only engine mod. My next job will be five stud conversion, but that will be years away. I work slooooowww. Oh yeh, the colour is saturn blue used on prefacelift e30, e28 and e24 I think

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:21 am

So john the m40 fuel pump fits perfectly into the m10 1.8's tank?and the return hose?confused! and yeh those jacks are crap!
Im a two car man. Shame my bike gets used more.Damn the MOT!
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e30Alex wrote:So john the m40 fuel pump fits perfectly into the m10 1.8's tank?and the return hose?confused! and yeh those jacks are crap!
Because mine was carb not injection it had a mechanical fuel pump which doesn't require a fuel return pipe back to the tank. all injection models do have a return fitted.
Yes the pump fits straight in. :D

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Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:07 pm

Did you use the standard fuel feed line? If so are you not worried about it exploding under the 10x higher fuel pressure?

Also, that extra fuel line (return) you just ran that to the right side of the pump, correct?

Sorry it's the same question but it's something I'm going to have to do in the next few weeks and knowing that the pumps are interchangeable has just made me a very happy bunny! Cheers. Also, what you doing about electrical connections to it? Still the same?

And what are you doing about general wiring, this is the main bit that is worrying me. I had to play about with wiring fitting my e34 3.5 into my e28, but this is a different kettle of fish. If you could post up what you plan to do then that would help a lot!!
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All flexible fuel lines have been replaced. All the answers you want depend on what model you are converting. Also if its a prefacelift is it a later one with the large c101 electrical socket on the bulkhead. Let me know and i'll try and answer as many questions as I can, or someone else will

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Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:49 pm

Thought I'd update an old thread ( not that I've done a lot lol)

Wired up the two speed fan with a couple of old relays and a N reg 525 temp sensor whiech fits the same hole on the side of the rad.

Heres the relays, using the old relay mount, which will have the plastic cover on it
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The temp sensor mounted, normal speed at 91 c, High speed at 99 c.
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Used an old type coolant header tank with some home made mounts, It sits higher than the newer type so bleeding might be easier.


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Modified a m40 engine top mount to hold the rad in

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It can now run for longer periods and I've noticed that the water pump has a lot of play in the pulley :cry: Why don't I listen to every other zoner thats done this conversion.
Sittng there patiently waiting for me to get my thumb out of my ass, its been nearly 3 years now :roll:

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Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:06 pm

Good stuff dude! :D

What's stopping it being on the road?
Jeremy Clarkson wrote:...but it drives the front wheels. Theee wrooong wheels!
da4x4turbo wrote:I raced a vivaro on the motorway once in a 318is.... and lost!!!
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DRIFTBOY wrote:Good stuff dude! :D

What's stopping it being on the road?
My wife mainly :D Prop, exhaust and a bit of tidying. As you can tell I'm in no hurry.

cheers

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johnl320 wrote:
DRIFTBOY wrote:Good stuff dude! :D

What's stopping it being on the road?
My wife mainly
:chuckle: :cry:

I see, it's good not to rush these things though.

Good luck, keep us up to date with progress, it's looking very tidy so far! :D
Jeremy Clarkson wrote:...but it drives the front wheels. Theee wrooong wheels!
da4x4turbo wrote:I raced a vivaro on the motorway once in a 318is.... and lost!!!
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Cheers Martin :D

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sweet work fella!

and thanks for the advice on my thread :D
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Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:55 pm

Nice bit of work!
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well done mate, always nice to see a chromie getting some love! :D
M20B25 actually :)
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Thanks guys. Brian, the minute I saw that you had posted I thought I was in for a grilling about my use of relays etc :roll: . The high speed one is alfa romeo, it is new so should last a month or so.

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johnl320 wrote:Thanks guys. Brian, the minute I saw that you had posted I thought I was in for a grilling about my use of relays etc :roll: . The high speed one is alfa romeo, it is new so should last a month or so.

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Didn't notice, TBH.
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brave confesion there john! the use of italian parts in a german car........
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Just had a very bad experience with a 156, owned it for 3 months and it spent most of that hooked up to the diagnostic machine with several alfa technicians scratching there heads. I took it back to the dealer in the end and got a little mazda 2 to run around in. I'll use that until the project is on the road and then the mazda will replace my very tired Nissan almera commuter biatch! You try handling 61bhp in the wet ! :cry:
Well thats my life story. Apart from the fact that me and the misses regret ever getting rid of the 320.

here is the old girl, still going strong with her new owner though

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Looks like a really neat job you are doing. :D
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i did love my 320i, its was my first bmw, my first e30 and my first rear drive car!

glad to see you know the person who owns the 320


whats your time frame on getting the 335i going?
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ric325i wrote:i did love my 320i, its was my first bmw, my first e30 and my first rear drive car!

glad to see you know the person who owns the 320


whats your time frame on getting the 335i going?
er time frame? I'm origionally from suffolk so 'eventually' will have to do.

Come on Ipswich , Tractor boys 4 Sheffield something 1 :D

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'eventually' is not a bad plan.

its the only thing on my mind at the moment as i dont have time to do mine as its my only car and public transport is anul.

oh and i like your baur by the way :D
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that's such a nice shell, i'd love to have my engine etc in an old chromer like that :drool:

header tank position looks like a very sensible idea too, the facelift 325i tank always looks a bit suspect to me when you see how high the thermo housing/bleed screw is... although people don't seem to have trouble once they're bled. i have to disconnect my tank and hold it right up against its coolant pipe to bleed mine properly :cry:
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oh so bleeding the cooling sounds like fun :(

just another job to do.

i did notice the header tank and was interested by that. its good to look pictures of other engine bays to see what people have done.
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Thanks for the comments guys, The shell is good but not perfect. The passenger door and rear quarter need some love.
It bled okay,heater valve open and alternatly squeeze the top and bottom rad hose until you feel them stiffen up slightly(full of fluid), then open the bleed valve and more of the same, worked for me :D

The Baur was run over by a 60 tonne tank and looking at it we reckoned that if the driver had layed across the seats he would have survived (obviously driver wasn't in it lol ).

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The nissan micra didn't fare so well :twisted:
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i say test the guy inside! :?

how funny is that.

i used to have a micra.....poor thing :twisted:

i will give your bleeding technique a try :D
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My engine mounts
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well they are bloody nice the 2nd one almost looks polished!

are you going for a bit of bling in the engine bay :D
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They look cool except for the slotted holes ?
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Andy335Touring wrote:They look cool except for the slotted holes ?
I wasn't too sure about the engine position, they have now got extra plates welded in with just a hole in.

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i will show a pic of mine at some point once i have put some paint on them.

expect some pics tomorrow.
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johnl320 wrote:
Andy335Touring wrote:They look cool except for the slotted holes ?
I wasn't too sure about the engine position, they have now got extra plates welded in with just a hole in.

john
Cool :thumb:
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