starter???

Post Tue May 10, 2005 11:12 pm

ok car wont start..... hear starter spinning but not turning engine...

i guess its the solenoid fcuked
can anyone confirm this?

cheers
Karan

Post Tue May 10, 2005 11:18 pm

agreed,the fact that it spins but aint engaging

Post Tue May 10, 2005 11:18 pm

Have you tried getting someone to hit it with a hammer and extension bar while turning it over?

Post Tue May 10, 2005 11:20 pm

unless cambelt has snapped !! it gives the same quick turn over sound sorta

Post Tue May 10, 2005 11:28 pm

Some times you can take them off and clean them up to get them working again.

What happens is the cog on your starter motor runs on a shaft,normally when the started is engaged the cog slides on the shaft to mesh with the gear teeth on your fly wheel and turns your engine over then slides back when the engine fires or you release the ignition switch.The shaft and cog get gunked up with shit so it doesn't slide on the shaft to engage the fly wheel.

It's a pain in the arse job getting the starter off

Post Tue May 10, 2005 11:34 pm

I don't know if the starter's are pre-engaged or inertia type but you could try sticking the car in gear and and rock it to turn the engine to release the Bendix. Assuming of course it is stuck on. If it's not even throwing the pinion then sounds like a clean up job or replacement.

Other than that you could use the good old persuader!

Post Tue May 10, 2005 11:46 pm

Mine does this, but only sometimes.. Starter spins, but then engines not home.

I was told it probably is the flywheel missing a couple of teath. If i put it into gear then out again and try again its fine...

This is why i have a new flywheel ready and wating to go in.... its also lightened though!

Post Wed May 11, 2005 12:04 am

buster wrote:unless cambelt has snapped !! it gives the same quick turn over sound sorta

dude the car runs fine...... i push started it... and it was perfecto, im guessing solenoid.... will just replace the starter methinks

Post Wed May 11, 2005 1:02 am

Gwynleym10 wrote:Mine does this, but only sometimes.. Starter spins, but then engines not home.

I was told it probably is the flywheel missing a couple of teath. If i put it into gear then out again and try again its fine...

This is why i have a new flywheel ready and wating to go in.... its also lightened though!

more likely starter than missing teeth flywheels are pretty strong!

my old 3.5 engine did this probably 3 of 5 times i ever turned the key! - starter spinning but no engagement. just keep trying and it would always start eventually.
just something wrong with the starter/solenoid, the flywheel was perfect.

Post Wed May 11, 2005 10:02 am

Oh well not particularly bothered about it at the mo as it always starts, but will investigate when i do my flywheel. m10 starters are as cheap as chips though!!

Post Wed May 11, 2005 10:05 am

ok just went pout tp check car........ and id een havign a vibration thru my prop recently..... this has caused my starter to come loose and also my PAS pump!!!! what a b1tch!!!

starter is fine though as it was working before..... im in bristol at the mo... gonna have to drive back taking it very easy methinks! what a bad time as well as ive got fookin exams and dotn have time to be repairing my car...gonna have to get my dad to do it i think!

so does anyone know how to tighten the bastid up on an m20 before i go home?

cheers
Karan

Post Wed May 11, 2005 4:47 pm

i think they are 2 torx bolts,cant remember been a while since i had mine off,but i remember they are a twat to get at.Best to take AFM air trunking off to get at it properly