Worlds longest Resto, my C2 2.7 19/3/18 Vent guage action

[Jem325i]

Hi,Been keeping an eye on what your doing keep up the good work.As you know Roy's doing the same with the B6,you said early in the thread about the green stikcker Roy was able to get one from his mate who works at the dealers but that was for the B6 so I'll get him to ask if he can get one for yours.Here's a pic of it think he paid about £5 or so for it.

[Simon13]

Thanks Jem, if it's possible to get the C2 2.7/b6 3.5 one i'd by very grateful, it's been a bit slow at the moment but i've been trying to sort out other things! and thinking about the colour change suggestion a little bit also

[mattG]

si keep it original,

buy the way my missus says join the far que

[Simon13]

she saw me in all my councilness!

[mattG]

si whats the point of changing the colour of a rare classic

[B7]

si keep it original,

+1

[Simon13]

i was thinking a flip paint in pink?

[tristan325]

i was thinking a flip paint in pink?

Dat is defo de way forward innit bruv! Free spokes an all innit, 19's should do. Word!

[tristan325]

Bloody hell Simon you're up early! I am only out of bed to bale out my living room! What's your excuse?

[Simon13]

i had to get up to go and look at a job! I need to keep the privates going to fund this bloody car!

I've been to bmw this week and got some prices as a bit of food for thought!

brand new from the dealers at list price........hold on

fuel tank - £377+vat - my tank is dented but not rusty,leaking so not sure about what to do on this one
filler neck -£125+vat - i might powder coat my one as it's only got some small surface rust
doors -£325+vat - both doors have some small bits of rust on them, drivers is worse
bootlid -£279+vat - bootlid is well gone on mine, i have another but it's got a tiny but of rust on it
front valance £160+vat - mines not too bad and is never seen because the cow catcher covers it, so i could de rust the small bits on it i suppose.
Wings £165 - both on mine are shot at the bottom , i have 2 second hand ones which are very good but not 100% rust free
sunroof £135 you guessed it mine is shot!
Bonnet - i didn't get a price for one, mine is pretty dam good

So i need to think a bit about what to do on the panel side of things. It's going a bit slow at the moment as i am waiting for the welding folks to get their thumb out, my neighbour works on carribean time, as does my uncle who is a tasty welder. He's only 4 miles away from me and i have found a car trailer, so i think i'd like him to have it as it would get done quicker.

I've found 3 painters through various contacts all fairly local to me with good reps, so i need to get them all out for a quote also! They all paint bentleys,astons and the like so should make decent jobs of it...i hope!

The list price for a brand new 2 door sunroof shell is only £1019 + vat for the bare shell, i don't think thats too bad a price? but they are NLA, but i'm sure there must be some lurking!

[mattG]

i surpose if you need a grands worth of welding a new shell would be the way to go

[mattG]

would a new shell come with all the seams sealed etc

[e30bmlover]

thats a bloody good price for a new shell! if u have the bread i would get it.

[tristan325]

New shells are NLA as Simon said! This means NO LONGER AVAILABLE!!! Si, might possibly be one lurking as you say, but I think BMW sold the last one in the late 90's.

[Kos]

there are a few privately available,

a mint M3 shell is worth very good money. i had some one express an interest in my re built shell and was offered a silly ammount of money for it rolling with glass and cage fitted

[B7]

Si.

I always think a Money no object resto is stretching things a bit. All very good on a 30's derby Bentley old boy but.......

If I were in your position I would concentrate the majority of funds on panels and paint. It's the bit that will really say "this car has been done properly using quality parts". It would be so easy at this point when you have a garage full of sh*t thinking "i'll need a new fuel tank and neck" when all of a sudden your £500+ the vat lighter when theres welding to be done.

Therefore i'd say genuine wings are worth the dough all day long. They all rot eventually so why bother prepping and painting even a slightly rusty panel at the risk of it coming back Same goes for doors and bootlids? there are thousands of rust free second hand panels out there. I'd source 2nd hand for these but source perfectly straight original panels to save on too much skimming and prep work. You will probably lose the windey windows at the same time. Sunroof is a no brainer, ask barry? Good valances come up on here occasionally and they seem about the £20 so not worth worrying about too much.

Tank? I wouldn't put a dented one back but I would put a refinished straight 2nd hand tank in. Do they rot out? don't thnk it's a common problem but at that price new and being out of site, a refinished 2nd hand straight one makes some sense.

Filler neck. 'kin 'ell, 125+vat seems choppy. Powder coat the old one.

As for the shell, if you can source a new shell go for it. Talk about peice of mind as far as rust goes. However with reference to a recent post of yours, pop off to your haystack and search for ya needle mate!

Serious note, I'd love to see this car in the flesh. Any chance of popping over to see it some time? I'll bring some cans if your lucky.

Good luck and keep us posted.

[Simon13]

I've always been budgeting for 2 new wings and a sunroof, my front valance is easily sortable, plus if you get a new one you have to drill holes in it for the alpina front spoiler to fit.

maybe a bootlid and door (drivers)

I'm not going to buy a shell! it doesn't need a bags worth of welding. it would be nice but it would lose the alpinaness and the shell isn't that bad that it warrants it.

I'll get some pic's of all the rust for you all to have a gander tomorrow if it stays dry enough to get it out the garage. Mr B you can come over whenever you want!

I need to borrow an engine crane if anyone has one?! it's the last thing i want out of the car is the engine+box

[B7]

I'm not going to buy a shell! it doesn't need a bags worth of welding. it would be nice but it would lose the alpinaness and the shell isn't that bad that it warrants it.

Thats a good point.

When you could still source a new shell, did BMW stamp it with your chassis number or did it come with a new one that showed it was a "reshell?". i think I've read somewhere that when you put a new scuttle in an M3, the chassis number is stamped in a different position? just out of interest.

[Chris-W]

Only just noticed this! Glad you're getting going (at last)

[Simon]

New scuttles from BMW UK are total rubbish, I have read on the US forums that they don't have the same problem, so why BMW can't use the same machine as them I really don't know!

[bss325i]

When you buy a scuttle from bmw the chassis number is stamped on the flat surface not the vertical one. The guy who was selling the totaly rotten blue c2 i looked in feb had a replacement to go with the car. As for a reshell why would it loose its alpinaness? What if the car was involved in a big accident when it was six months old and was reshelled buy bmw?

[Kos]

New scuttles from BMW UK are total rubbish, I have read on the US forums that they don't have the same problem, so why BMW can't use the same machine as them I really don't know!

mine wasnt too bad, the main numbers nice and staight. its the numbers further along which are bit out of line. i would put a picture up but it would give away the colour i'm painting the car

in reffernce to something B7 said, you could go and get a clean shell and keep the origial ID, buy the new scuttle from BMW's for the original shell and fit it that way you keep yous cars ariginal ID

not the best solutiuon as it kind of makes it a ringer LoL

[boybimmerm3]

Si, i will bring my engine crane around and get the engine out for you. I have been away for a few weeks getting some sun I will give you a call in the next couple of days.

[Simon13]

what perfect timing for some sunshine, it's been lovely here

[Jhonno]

what perfect timing for some sunshine, it's been lovely here

even the duck have busted out their umbrellas!

[slinky2000]

you know what, the sun came out this morning here in ireland, its beautiful this mornin! great to have the wind in my hair again, lol

[Simon13]

no updates as i am waiting on people of the welding types! Engine should come out this week i hope but i need to buy an engine stand.

I need to make a start on some of the rust myself me thinks treat the little bits a bodyshop won't bother with

I hate waiting on people!

[Simon]

Isn't it time for an avatar and sig update Mr13?

[Simon13]

What would you like to see instead Mr.Simon?!

[Simon]

I don't know, just something different, it's like being on the old zone still

[Simon13]

I'll see what i can do............i like to remember the old sport she was my hero! And my eye keeps me real as to where i have been!

[RJB6]

Hi,Simon,got your pm,I'm still not made up my mind what to do, I'll have a chat with you at the weekend at Gaydon.

[Jhonno]

Finished yet?!

[Simon13]

no but.... i ground this bit of rust back. Sooooo do i etch prime it first or zincplate it anyone?!

[Ant]

Zinc 1st, then prime

I have 2 engine stands Simon, welcome to borrow one dude