starting a e36 m3 without keys

[nickalauski]

hi, i've just brought a written off m3 for a s50 / e30 engine conversion. the trouble is i didn't recieve keys!!

with the ignition switch remove i can power up the second position but when turn to crack nothing happens. does anyone know an easy way to start the enigne?

I would like to hear the engine run before i take it out. The car is a 1995 non evo thanks.

[whipsey]

possibly get a new key from dealers?

[HairyScreech]

thats an imobiliser kicking in a start inhibit relay. find the relay and go backwards from there.

[Steve-E30]

Arent the keys chipped for the ecu hence it wont turn over so its to do with the immobiliser , Heard that somewhere

[whipsey]

Arent the keys chipped for the ecu hence it wont turn over so its to do with the immobiliser , Heard that somewhere

thats what i was thinking my vectra lost a small piece of plastic from inside the key turned out to be the imobiliser code

[doughboy]

got my 306gti6 ecu unlocked for 140 quid, dunno if the m3 is as easy though

[zimmerbimmer1]

Sounds like your car has the ews system, check around the ignition barrel for the ring antenna if there is a plastic ring with a wire on it your car has ews.

To obtain a new key you would need to order it through your local BMW Dealer but you may have a problem ordering it as they WILL need to see the Reg Doc in your name with proof of ID..

If you do not have these it is down to the dealers discretion whether they would supply you a key or not

To confirm if your car has the ews system pm me the chassis number and I'll check it for you.

[zimmerbimmer1]

The unfortunate thing is if the car does have ews and you can't obtain a key you will never start the car.

[nickalauski]

thanks for the advice.

there is a transponder reciever around the ignition barrel which is a problem! many others have done s50 engine coversions in e30's using standard management, so how is this possible?

will i need to get the ecu unlocked? if so who can do it?

[Jhonno]

no you install the ews into the e30!

[eko]

Can be started without the key even though it has EWS!
I havent done it myself but saw how it was done earlier this week
PM sent

[nickalauski]

eko, top stuff.

i will try that tomorrow. fingers crossed!

[eko]

Let us know how you get on!

[Jhonno]

EKO mate, i dunno if that should be posted on the foum 4 all too see..

[eko]

EKO mate, i dunno if that should be posted on the foum 4 all too see..

Good point mate,edited now

[ian332isport]

Can be started without the key even though it has EWS!
I havent done it myself but saw how it was done earlier this week
PM sent

Just out of interest, can you also PM me the info on how this is done ?

Ian.

[nickalauski]

i will be trying to fire up the m3 today using methods discussed earlier.

i will report back later!

[james_obryan]

Pm me also (e36 here with broken barell)

[nickalauski]

still no luck in starting the engine. i also discovered a hole in the sump so i can not start the engine at this stage.

Also required is a 5 series m50 sump pan. if anyone has or knows of one please pm me.

[james_obryan]

I am breaking an S50B32 engine and have the sump, pm/email sent.