My S50 swap.. Progress and questions

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:22 pm

You see, im sue thats how i set it (pic above) befowe, so somehow its moved

Might have the chance to take to 4 a day in a bmw wokshop to get it looked at whilst im about..

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:37 pm

Why would it be out though, what's been done to the engine?

Might have the chance to take to 4 a day in a bmw wokshop to get it looked at whilst im about..

Stop in at PC world on the way back

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:41 pm

Not done anything i know of.. Only swapped the sump

Its odd..

Laptop is um.. in need of changing yeah.. Shame i have Ã‚£1200 to spunk this month

If i could get my desktop hd installed it'd be fiiine

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:50 pm

^ No problem, I'll see if I can knock the top off tomorrow. Is there anyway to setup a three way phone call?

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:55 pm

Sorry but I have just been sitting here in fits of laughter.

I'm hunting waaaaaabits!

(Oh and I can't help at all with the issue, But it is a good giggle.

)

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:57 pm

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:50 pm

Why would the valve timing be out?

Do you know anything about the engines previous runnings?

I would put some wire down the plug hole of No1 just to make sure the piston is at the top of its stroke, if the crank is at TDC I cant help but think the valves are hitting a piston with the cams where they are. You should be able to see if the cams have been moved by looking at the sprockets, look for clean parts where they have been turned round.

Fingers crossed for you mate

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:50 am

Its supposedly an eighty thousand mile lump, bought fwom a bmw specialist in the midlands i think. Bought it off someone who decided not to do the convestion himself..

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:15 pm

Cam positions at TDC:

TDC mark (I assume) on Inlet Cam chainwheel:

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:06 pm

Hmmmm.. Mine looks a bit diff..

How did you tuwn the engine in the end?

Post Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:38 pm

think mine lookin at it, cams fine compawed to each otha but not compawed to tdc.. odd

Post Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:33 pm

Jhonno wrote:Hmmmm.. Mine looks a bit diff..

How did you tuwn the engine in the end?

I put a bit of hard flex down the bore and rocked it gently in fourth gear until it was at near enough TDC. The result is there in the pics.

I'm sure the second pic shows the DC mark on the inlet cam sprocket too. I can't see any reference on the exhaust cam sprocket.

What are you going to do next?

Post Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:37 pm

not sue atm.. I think the best option is to sowt the bwake sewvo, and get the bwakes sowted, finish the e36 wack swap, (long stowy with the coupling) then when i have my manifold and x-pipe, take to bmw on a sat n get them to check the engine ova and time it pwopely

Post Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:33 pm

Jhonno, if you still dont have a wad in its easy enough to turn the engine by hand, you ought to get the cwank at TDC and check the cams again before laying out any more money!

Post Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:23 pm

I have a wad.. My pic was TDC.. Cams ae well off! Not in welation to each otha, but out of time with the cwank. Odd. Its tuwns ova atm, but wont catch, doesnt sound like its twying eitha. Has spak and fuel and compwession. Odd pop of flame fwom the inlet also suggests timing

Post Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:32 pm

Are your plugs getting wet ?

Have you tried a multimeter to check you've got power to the coils/fuel injectors ?

Post Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:18 am

plugs wet.. Dunno. i can smell fuel afta its been cwanked. its getting a spak deffo, had a stwobe thingy on it. also tested 12v at the coils

does my pic of my cam timing still show, doesnt load 4 me now.

Post Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:58 am

Post Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:23 am

If both cams are timed right in relation to each other and it is genuinely at TDC then presumably the timing chain or sprocket has slipped at the crank? In the pic above they look like they're a full 180 crank deg out compared to the manual and Oldschool2002's pics!

jk

Post Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:46 pm

not 180 out, moe like 45/50 deg..

When my manifolds awive it will be heading to BMW to be timed and looked at..

Befoe then im planning to have it steewing (again) and bwaking so all thats left is wiwing and odds and sods

Should have a wiwing cova on its way and a sevo.. Mite need one of Daemons welocation thingies 4 the sevo tho

Quite exciting.. 4 weeks to get it done now

Post Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:56 pm

Why four weeks, aiming for Gaydon mate

Post Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:03 pm

Gaydon gives me a potential 4 days to get the ca on the woad and weliable fom when the manifolds aiwive.. Wetwo Wides (DONT!!) Gives me a little extwa 'play' time

Post Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:12 pm

^^ Good luck with doing all that in that amount of time. It's all the little jobs that bite you in the ass.

I find making lists helps me to stay focused and keeps me motivated when I cross things off it one by one. Sad, but true. I figure that owning an E30 is a never ending list of little jobs. I suppose that's a good thing otherwise I would lose interest if it were truly 'finished'.

Once that engine fires up you will have a renewed enthusiasm towards it and everything will fall into place. It's funny that all the hard work pays off the instant that happens

Post Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:15 pm

yeah i know.. loads to do, but only woking w/ends atm soo.. plenty of time duing the week.

Post Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:00 pm

old_skool_2002 wrote:^^ Good luck with doing all that in that amount of time. It's all the little jobs that bite you in the ass.

I find making lists helps me to stay focused and keeps me motivated when I cross things off it one by one. Sad, but true. I figure that owning an E30 is a never ending list of little jobs. I suppose that's a good thing otherwise I would lose interest if it were truly 'finished'.

Once that engine fires up you will have a renewed enthusiasm towards it and everything will fall into place. It's funny that all the hard work pays off the instant that happens

I do exactly the same mate.I've got little lists all over the place.When i think of something that needs doing i put it on paper.Then when i get around to doing the jobs its great satisfaction to stick a line through it .

Post Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:33 pm

I do exactly the same too.

I find the list doesn't get shorter though - every time I do a job and cross something off the list, the job almost always unearths other things that need doing, and they get added to the bottom of the list.

Post Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:38 pm

I do actually have a list also.. Got to cwoss some things off the othe week, well exciting! Things keep getting added tho.. Solve one thing, up cwops anotha

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:49 pm

Next order placed with BMW.. Should be able to cross a few more things off the list very soon!

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:09 pm

i see you've crossed the" Must get new keyboard" off the list !

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:53 pm

nah.. got the home computer working.. So i can use that atm. My split personality, Johnathon Woss, will be back

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:36 pm

Jhonno wrote:Next order placed with BMW..

What did you order and hopefully at a good price

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:06 pm

^ You whore Paul.

Jhonno, got these brake plates being organised, the full set with the (previously unpublished) bit required for the internal mod. You up for a set?

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:20 pm

I think i will be yeah.. Dont see any servo fitting without plenum mods or sideways movement

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:31 pm

zimmerbimmer1 wrote:
Jhonno wrote:Next order placed with BMW..
What did you order and hopefully at a good price

Well nothing in the end.. They never rang me back like they were supposed to! Its a load of random odd and sods. Should be a good price tho

Started to unpick the wiring today.. Fuck me its scary!

I reckon my engine is goin to actually be confused as to what it is when i put it all back together again..

Post Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:38 pm

Jhonno wrote:
zimmerbimmer1 wrote:
Jhonno wrote:Next order placed with BMW..
What did you order and hopefully at a good price
Well nothing in the end.. They never rang me back like they were supposed to! Its a load of random odd and sods. Should be a good price tho

Started to unpick the wiring today.. **** me its scary! I reckon my engine is goin to actually be confused as to what it is when i put it all back together again..

Let me know what you need and I'll send it to you.