best ay to get power out of my 316i m40

[leeman69]

i want to get the most power i can out of my 316i without having an engine transplant, which is the best way to go? n/a of turbo/supercharger conversion?
cheers

[whipsey]

for what it would cost you may as well drop a 2.5 in there mate

[Rik178m]

Ive got the same engine mate and from what I've been hearing there really isnt anything out there! An engine transplant is the only way I've also concluded! m10 - turbo, m20 or m30

[ric325i]

316i is for gays.


sorry to be blunt but why go to the cost and complexity of a turbo on a 1.6 which will only give you the power of a 325i?

sounds like a waste.

if you have the money to turbo get a m20 2,5 and turbo that!

[leeman69]

well im only 17 i cant get insured on anything else

[ric325i]

question is are you going to tell the insurance company about the turbo?

so will you tell tham about the engine conversion?

[fuzzy]

im sure turboing or supercharging is going to push your insurance premium up more than driving a basic 325.im surprised you can get insurance on the 316 at 17. apprentices at my work pay around £1500 a year for little 1.1 corsa's. unfortunately its a cross you young ones have to bare until you gain a few more years driving experience.it leaves the fast cars available for us older more mature drivers

[1an]

im sure turboing or supercharging is going to push your insurance premium up more than driving a basic 325.im surprised you can get insurance on the 316 at 17. apprentices at my work pay around £1500 a year for little 1.1 corsa's. unfortunately its a cross you young ones have to bare until you gain a few more years driving experience.it leaves the fast cars available for us older more mature drivers

so thats how i you came accross the ford - bmw hybrid by writing of your previous car

join the club im 17 with a 316i, just be patient, my plan is to make the most of what i have i.e suspension and ripping all the interior out.

[leeman69]

well how much would i be lookin for the engine and box?

[ric325i]

with insurence i found i ccould pay £900 for a 1.0 micra and £1100 for a 1.9 205 gti so its worth looking.

still fair play for having a 1.6 a 17

[Jhonno]

you can put a piper cam in there and chip for small gains..

[fuzzy]

so thats how i you came accross the ford - bmw hybrid by writing of your previous car

join the club im 17 with a 316i, just be patient, my plan is to make the most of what i have i.e suspension and ripping all the interior out.

i came across my bmw/ford hybrid after writing of my previous toyota/ford hybrid which in turn came about by writing off the .......etc etc
fortunately as im a more mature 37 year old i can afford such mishaps and still only pay £630 fully comp. you time will come so be patient

[1an]

so thats how i you came accross the ford - bmw hybrid by writing of your previous car

join the club im 17 with a 316i, just be patient, my plan is to make the most of what i have i.e suspension and ripping all the interior out.

i came across my bmw/ford hybrid after writing of my previous toyota/ford hybrid which in turn came about by writing off the .......etc etc
fortunately as im a more mature 37 year old i can afford such mishaps and still only pay £630 fully comp. you time will come so be patient

i pay just under twice that for my policy, and thats 3rd party. and a couple of cosmetic mods

[fuzzy]

so thats how i you came accross the ford - bmw hybrid by writing of your previous car

join the club im 17 with a 316i, just be patient, my plan is to make the most of what i have i.e suspension and ripping all the interior out.

i came across my bmw/ford hybrid after writing of my previous toyota/ford hybrid which in turn came about by writing off the .......etc etc
fortunately as im a more mature 37 year old i can afford such mishaps and still only pay £630 fully comp. you time will come so be patient

i pay just under twice that for my policy, and thats 3rd party. and a couple of bits not declared.

id remove that last part of the last sentence if i was you

[Rik178m]

If you dont declare and smash into the back of some1 would insurance still pay for their car etc? third pary cover.

leeman69 - I know how hard it is being 17 and wanting power but concentrate on handling and good brakes first! If you are intent on performance and aren't declaring it makes no difference between charging or conversion!

Insurance is a rip off but what can ya do eh!

[ric325i]

If you dont declare and smash into the back of some1 would insurance still pay for their car etc? third pary cover.

leeman69 - I know how hard it is being 17 and wanting power but concentrate on handling and good brakes first! If you are intent on performance and aren't declaring it makes no difference between charging or conversion!

Insurance is a rip off but what can ya do eh!

insurance would pos be void to be honest?

[secondtimelucky]

hey, just to rain on peoples parade with insurance... im only 21 and been driving a little over a year, and my insurance for my new e30 318i touring is only 700 quid tpf&t thats 90 quid less than my old 1.1 mk3 fiesta for the same cover!!!! sheer lunacy!!!!

[jimbob350]

i want to get the most power i can out of my 316i without having an engine transplant, which is the best way to go? n/a of turbo/supercharger conversion?
cheers

you could just put a performance exhaust, filter and chip it, cheap mods for now, at least it would sound better.......

[ric325i]

yeah get a chip from the zone and see what that is like?

i bet dropping the 318i block in may be a quick easy swap and get you 110bhp rather that of the 316?

you may get away with it on the insurance in some respects? dont tell them and it may be less noticeable since they are both 4 pots and the 316i is just a mega restricted 1.8 anyway. - if i am right?

but if your going down that route then drop the 318is lump in it? 4 pot with 140 bhp.

leeman69 we are trying to help

and fuzzy 20 years is a long time to be patient!

[Ziggy]

you may get away with it on the insurance in some respects? dont tell them and it may be less noticeable since they are both 4 pots and the 316i is just a mega restricted 1.8 anyway. - if i am right?

If you want to do that then it's your own funeral, please don't recommend it to others though.

If you have a big accident / hit a motorbiker & leave him paralysed / mow down a bus queue, then you will be ****ed. The insurance company will still have to pay out (I think that's how it works now), but will come after you through the courts for the money. & that could be lots of money. So I hardly think checking an engine number is going to be too much trouble for them. & nor is checking for superchargers / turbos / chips / whatever.

As a 17 year old you are far better off getting the bodywork etc up to a good standard, & then worrying about mods when you can afford them. You may well be surprised at how little they add to your premium if you go through a specialist insurer

[ric325i]

you may get away with it on the insurance in some respects? dont tell them and it may be less noticeable since they are both 4 pots and the 316i is just a mega restricted 1.8 anyway. - if i am right?

If you want to do that then it's your own funeral, please don't recommend it to others though.

If you have a big accident / hit a motorbiker & leave him paralysed / mow down a bus queue, then you will be ****ed. The insurance company will still have to pay out (I think that's how it works now), but will come after you through the courts for the money. & that could be lots of money. So I hardly think checking an engine number is going to be too much trouble for them. & nor is checking for superchargers / turbos / chips / whatever.

As a 17 year old you are far better off getting the bodywork etc up to a good standard, & then worrying about mods when you can afford them. You may well be surprised at how little they add to your premium if you go through a specialist insurer

sorry i see exactly what you are saying there!

i hope people read posts and think about things, it was just an idea.
i will be more responsible.



lets face it a 1.6 rear drive car for a 17 year old is very good taste! i had a micra which was great fun.

keep it legal it will be better in the long run

[Ziggy]

I had a 1043cc Polo at 17 - any E30 is definitely doing well!

[appletree]

As others have said get the body, suspension and brakes up to scratch first, if you intend to keep the car that is.

I bought my IS at 18 and payed £1470 fully comp, then supercharged it and now pay £1430 3rd party fire and theft. so its not all bad and thats with EVERY mod decleard

[1an]

you may get away with it on the insurance in some respects? dont tell them and it may be less noticeable since they are both 4 pots and the 316i is just a mega restricted 1.8 anyway. - if i am right?

If you want to do that then it's your own funeral, please don't recommend it to others though.

If you have a big accident / hit a motorbiker & leave him paralysed / mow down a bus queue, then you will be ****ed. The insurance company will still have to pay out (I think that's how it works now), but will come after you through the courts for the money. & that could be lots of money. So I hardly think checking an engine number is going to be too much trouble for them. & nor is checking for superchargers / turbos / chips / whatever.

As a 17 year old you are far better off getting the bodywork etc up to a good standard, & then worrying about mods when you can afford them. You may well be surprised at how little they add to your premium if you go through a specialist insurer

cant agree more with you ziggy,

OEM parts is the way forward as they could be specced from when new etc.

[ric325i]

ok so what insurance are people using?

i have to look into it for when i convert.

i never declared my Mi16 conversion in my 205 gti but i was younger and a bit silly

[1an]

my insurance policy is with Quinn Direct as they were the only people that would insure me.

[OSE30]

both 4 pots and the 316i is just a mega restricted 1.8 anyway. - if i am right?

M40 316I engine is 1,6 liters.