m3 36 engine swope to e30

[sambmw]

hi i'm doing a s50b3.0 conversion on my e30 but i need the electri loom code for the s50 engine pin any one can help

[maxfield]

At least make the effort with some proper spelling and grammar.

[sambmw]

sorry
first time

[Brianmoooore]

There's a massive thread on fitting M50s in the archives. All the info you need is in there!

[jaistanley]

Your first time spelling?

Seriously guys, at least he isn't using TXT SPK. ROFL What are we, school teachers?

Brian's right though. There is a thread called 'M50 Developments'. Do a search.

Also: Take a look at Old_Skool_2002's threads on this very page. They basically read as a 'How To' for fitting an S50 (not M50 which is the non-M3 24v).

Also: Take a look at www.e3024v.com . Ste's new site dedicated to just that swap. Perfect for the job.

Good luck fella.

Jai

[jaistanley]

Ooooh, I hadn't seen that text speak filter before!!! BRAVO!

[maxfield]

Sorry to be pedantic but didn't quite understand.

There has been plenty of M50 conversions on the zone, get searching

[sambmw]

any one know if you can over ride the EWS on the engine loom

[maxfield]

Have a read through this thread:

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... 43&start=0

[jmc330i]

any one know if you can over ride the EWS on the engine loom

I got your PM, will answer here.

What engine is it you are fitting? You mention the E36 M3, but also the M50. These are different engines.

The EWS system cant be bypassed as far as I know, you will need the correct ECU, EWS module and ignition key to get the engine running. You could use an aftermarket ECU, but that will be expensive and you will most likely lose the Vanos control.

[sambmw]

it is m3 e36 3.0 engine

[maxfield]

That will be a S50B30 not M50.

[sambmw]

i have the ews 1 and 2 the one connect to the key reader ,one ecu,key chip,key reader do i need anthing els

[toby]

At least make the effort with some proper spelling and grammar.

pot
kettle
black

mate seriously...

[sambmw]

thank you very much boys the engine start today i will post pic soon

[jaistanley]

[A3T]

So that means if i buy S50B30 there must be original ECU, EWS and key from that engine, that i am looking at? Because the seller doesn't have this things to give them to me with the engine.

What can then be done? Can i buy this things from some other car? Or even bypass it?

Tnx

Bye

[jaistanley]

Well only the very late 3.0 litre cars had ews which often means the cabrios, all of the 3.2's did.

Jai

[jmc330i]

As Jai said, only the late 3.0ltrs have EWS (from Jan 1995 on).

[Colonel Sanders]

what if its after that and you have no ews and key but have engine loom and ecu?

[old_skool]

what if its after that and you have no ews and key but have engine loom and ecu?

You have to buy a whole new setup. Eaxctly like I have just done. If the EWS module, Key and DME don't talk in the right code, then it won't go, period.

I won't go into too many details (mainly becuase I don't know all of them myself) but to recode an EWS setup on a E30 is a lot of hassle, requires more wiring with E36 clocks being present in the loom otherwise the software throes its toys out of the pram. Even then a visit to the dealer to carry out the recoding is necessary.

There may be a way of removing the EWS code from the DME itself, however this is only rumour and I am yet to have seen it done/covered in this country. Recalling a conversation with ian332isport I believe has been done in the US on euro spec M50's before now.

Best bet is to make sure you have everything you need from the start, otherwise budget £200 ish to buy a s/h setup complete.

[Colonel Sanders]

so with the other s50 motor, pre 95, you dont need none of the ews and key no?

[buster]

Its not that you dont need it,it doesn't have it so no ews problems.

[Colonel Sanders]

so if i had the engine, engine loom and ecu it will run?

[Jhonno]

what else does an engine need other than fuel and spark?

[maxfield]

what else does an engine need other than fuel and spark?

Compression.

[bigpimpin]

air would be handy

Sorry, couldn't resist