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randomdave325
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Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:50 am
Hi dave how thing with you ?
Ant has done a cracking job Yes it is running MS so you can plug in, i dont know about limiter you would if to ask Ant .
Ant Said you got to stick something up the ass end to put it on RR, wide band i think
How is your M50 baby up and running again?
All good m8 thanks. busy!! which kinda keeps me out of mischief
i was just curious as to what management it was on. there's no need to plug it in m8.
Again with the limiter. is it any higher?
I started my car on monday for the first time since it's re shell. it had no manifolds on so fired into life with 6 blueflames and everything!! i took it to phoenix yesterday to have a manifold developed for 2 weeks then i'll be finished for run to the sun. i'm kinda lost without it now so have dragged that s50 from under my bench and am currently abusing my 316auto with it! come over if not busy 2mo. be good to see yours with a turbo and a hardtop. it'll be an brakes & a lsd next!.
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CHRISP
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Sat May 05, 2007 7:57 pm
Well when to RR today
Here is some figs before and after .
Torque 4500rpm B 117ft lb A 164.7 ft ib
BHP 5500rpm B 120hp A 165 hp
And still more in set up if i want

one day ANT
Big thanks to randomdave325 and Ant for making it happen!!!!
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eko
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Sat May 05, 2007 8:04 pm
CHRISP wrote:Well when to RR today
Here is some figs before and after .
Torque 4500rpm B 117ft lb A 164.7 ft ib
BHP 5500rpm B 120hp A 165 hp
And still more in set up if i want

one day ANT
Big thanks to randomdave325 and Ant for making it happen!!!!
Nice increase in numbers there Chris!
Plus good scope for more i assume

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CHRISP
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Sat May 05, 2007 8:08 pm
I am on the first step of the ladder Tony.
Learner

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Ant
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Sun May 06, 2007 11:26 am
This setup will run 12 psi easy into the B18 , currently @ 6.5 to give 100% cylinder fill and 100% VE
more boost will give more HP up top, but less TQ down the bottom end.
May I have a copy of the plots Chris Please ?
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CHRISP
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Sun May 06, 2007 6:07 pm
OK Ant will send you a hard copes in post

cant seam to be able to email them.
Car is running sweet mate smoooooth
Lots of interest at show gave out alot of your flyer mate.
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Sun May 06, 2007 8:08 pm
Forgot about those dude
was gonna ask you to pass them if the Q came up, Cheers Chris
biggest question....... does she go down the drive any better ??
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CHRISP
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Sun May 06, 2007 8:48 pm
Ant wrote:Forgot about those dude
was gonna ask you to pass them if the Q came up, Cheers Chris
biggest question....... does she go down the drive any better ??
Just touches much better, clearing all road humps now going to get the JCB out for drive
figs well good mate and still drivable just what i asked for

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Ant
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Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:37 pm
DYNO ADDED

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CHRISP
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:58 pm
Thanks Ant for putting figs up

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Have you heard about ramp yet

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Demlotcrew
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:22 pm
That looks like a good curve.
But how comes yours is not getting 200bhp like malcs?

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CHRISP
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Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:28 pm
This setup will run 12 psi easy into the B18 , currently @ 6.5 to give 100% cylinder fill and 100% VE
more boost will give more HP up top, but less TQ down the bottom end all usable and it pulls like a train

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Demlotcrew
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:26 am
Yes but malcs has less spec and still has 200bhp
So why doesnt yours?
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tylerma
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:47 am
mine hasnt been on the rollers yet
so we dont know what it has
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Demlotcrew
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:19 am
Malc im sure i heard you say to people at ace thats its 200bhp?

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tylerma
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:21 am
no way
I wouldnt claim anything that is not proven
our aim was 200 BHP
weather or not we reach that is another thing
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Demlotcrew
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:02 pm
Well going by what chrisp's car is putting out i think its best you aim for 160bhp
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Ant
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:08 pm
160 Hp for now maybe....
thats the real beuty of FI, want more, turn up the wick ( to a point)
if only N/A tuning was so flexable

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Demlotcrew
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:50 pm
Tell me about it Ant,
Im still only on 210bhp and 170lbft at the fly (175bhp at the wheels) and all my mates in and around cambs with FI are well past the 300bhp mark and they have spent far less £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£$$$$ getting there!
Its not that NA is not flexible its expensive. But the rewards are far more than with FI.
No need for that Malc, im just being realistic your engine spec is less and you aim to get about 15% more power?
I think every engineer around the world would like to know the formula for this, you just might be on the verge of a break through?
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CHRISP
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Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:26 pm
Malc and my self are happy at the moment
Mine is 170 bhp Malc is turned up more so he must have more than 165 bhp i dont know how it works HP per psi

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Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:31 am
have any of you M40 turbo boys done the 1/4 mile? any 0-60 figures?
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Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:35 am
I know its slighty off topic but how much do you reckon an M42 would give at around the same boost, or would it just go bang. Im intrigued to know a power estimate of what I'll have by the end of my modifications, plus people are asking me how much power do I think I'll have, when they realise I'm not entirely sure it only gives them more reason to say It wont work...
I dont think I'll have the expertise that has gone into this project though
Lovely install, and the fact its on a cab makes it that bit cooler
M42 rightness above 6500rpm, nobody can hear you scream
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Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:36 pm
M42 would show slightly higher gains per psi of boost, purely because it flows more air and is therefore more efficient.
theres one Turbo M42 that i know of in the UK, he's a member on here too.
I'm hoping to do one of my conversions on an M42 in the coming months, be a PITA though as an R+D evercise the costs are to be carried by A-Tech
watch this space....
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Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:40 pm
antony wrote:165 rwkW @ 13 psi.
I'm lazy but what does that equate to in English ?

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Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:47 pm
222 HP roughly Andy
260 or so @ the crank is about right, 1 bar in theory should double the claimed N/A output of any given engine.
Very not bad

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Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:52 pm
Ant wrote:222 HP roughly Andy
260 or so @ the crank is about right, 1 bar in theory should double the claimed N/A output of any given engine.
Very not bad

heres a number i like ................. 436 bhp

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Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:55 pm
Thats more than enough

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Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:00 pm
Ant wrote:Thats more than enough

true, anything more that 400hp in a RWD street car is usless. but 500bhp always sounds good !!
a decent turbo with usable power delivary is the key to have a fast turbo'd street car. the scandanavians use big turbos, but they are only good fot high RMP 1/4 abuse and are not drivable
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Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:23 pm
i know how much trouble i have with traction and i only have 282bhp over 400 would be mad. 4wd would be a nessesity for that sort of power i think. i got a rough price for 4wd converting my e30 using cossie running gear and the starting price was from around £2500. one day .....

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Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:46 pm
never had trouble putting down 265bhp before, but 3rd gear wheel spin at 90mph in the rain was scary.
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CHRISP
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Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:19 pm
just another mini update
visited Ant for some new mods
a wide band lamber sensor ,
a wasted spark set up,
and a bit of remapping ,now running 7psi
hope to get car back at the pod
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Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:59 am
nice one Chris cant wait to take a look round it