How do i get my car in PBMW mag?

[snoops]

BTW Kos you seem to have some beef with A-Tech cars
and practices when it comes to management
can I suggest you keep these oppinions off the forum
it will just cause bad feeling

dude im sorry but thats just wrong, dont say it cos it will cause tension? so what, as a person who would liek to find out more, i would rather hear as much information as possible,

for example, the guy who done Camshafts wheels, Carlos, look ok in pictures, but when you see them in person you can see the imperfections present , however as soon as someone said the pictures are good, you have 10 messages saying, oh wow carlos is the man! f;ing amazing job, yeah yeah yeah,,, no one wants to stick out and say, hang on its not that great... or they dont want to cos its gonna cause "tension" if i sent off my wheels to him and got a similar finish then i would think wtf was all the hype about!

same thing, management wise, no doubt i will go MS, im not gonna back kos up in his opinions of MS, as i think its a decent management system and for the price you should be more then happy realistically. does what ou need out of a management system,

but come on malcome, you gotta admit a comment like that is a bit of nonsense really, if someone does a shit job, it should be known, if someone goes a genuinly good job then likewise. but just because its gonna cause tension then everything wll be full of good work and no one will know the truth of bad jobs, regardless of what the job is.

kos's opinion isnt one of a random newbie whos never tinkered with cars, hes got a fair whack of experience and does his reading and research into things, personally i value his opinion as well as many others on the zone. everyones got a brain to use, then use it and judge for yourself! i dont agree with everything kos says regardless of his experience, kos i make my own judgements and appply it to what i want/need out of my car...

im currently doing Mahmoods sound install, if he doesnt like it, i dont want him to say infront of everyone he likes it, and he thinks my workmanship is fantastic, why.. just cos it might cause tension at the next ace meet. no.. id rather he told me its shit, he hates it, and its not worth what hes paying, then ill either try to resolve it. or be made to look like an idiot, but ill respect him for saying so..

basically... if someone screws you over on a engine mod, wheels, body, ice, anything,,, and you still say good job, then realistically. your a dumb shit who is missing his bollocks.

+1

[Gortour]

What a bunch of women you all are. Was there a group buy on handbags that I missed because there seems to be an abundance of handbag waving in here.

Totally agreed with this statement.
Someone asks for some friendly advice and it turns into an argument with a load of bitching and people getting upset... AS PER USUAL!!!

Why is it necessary to do the "don't bother, your car's a piece of ****" comments. Why slag off other people's cars? Is it because you're conceited enough to think your car is so much better than theirs? Bootyman has lovely cars featured in mags, sh*t loads spent on them, and he's giving advice and defence against the rude comments.

Come on girls, grow up.

[Kos]

its not lible malcom, but its not entierly untrue. did you not have any issues with your car?? honestly ??

so by saying its not entirely true
you are calling yourself a liar

"The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of libel
(harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a
picture, sign, or electronic broadcast),
each of which gives a common law right of action."

i know ants your mate so you are taking this personaly

no I have had no reliability issues with Ants work
the only problems I have had with my car have been my doing
or "wear and tear" do you know of any that I am not aware of

Ant is a good friend yes
so are you and Dips and I am not taking it personal no
I would defend both parties if somebody was slating there work

you may have been "in the game" for a long time time mate
but in no way does that make you a professional

you miss read my words malcom, to say you've had no issues with your car is untrue. and in making this comment ants name will be dragged into this

you're turbo installation was poor, too close to the lead which caused them to melt. a true engineer will forsee any issues befor they arise


i'm an enthusiast who know a fair ammount. i dont claim to know it all but i know a feature car when i see one. erels in not.

i know when i see a good bit of engineering, or paint work etc and i can express my self any way i choose

which take me to the following

also Kos
coming out with a comment like this

i'm not starting an argument, just making a point and thats not being rude,
stop trying to intimidate me with your new "moderator" status

is rude and out of order and is uncalled for
Dave was not rude to you or trying to intimidate

merely entering into a discussion
and you took a swipe

you want to state your opinion with no comebacks
but Dave cant

pretty much as soon as you entered this thread you have been on the attack

you dave are mods, and ants mates who is also a mod co/owner of the zone, you 2 are attacking me for daring to question and comment on a car ant ( your mate) has done a lot of work on

i can say what i want and express my self any way i wish, with out having to worry about being hounded by particular people

you dave erel are all part of the same "crew" the A-tec BBQ boys who plug him any time you can.

have the balls to say what you really think, i have and i'll stand at ace or any other meet and say it.

if your cars good enough for the mag then they'll put it in, but its not that easy.if a car is good enough the mags will always hunt the cars down, its their job to do so

i took this a little to far for some people but the truth hurts

[Nelly]

gortour +1

Exactly what needed to be said, it almost seems that Kos margined this thead in the first page by basically writing (and reading through the lines) that if you don't own a Supercharged Turbo'd M3 with brand new paint on it's 100% metal work then it's not worthy.

I'm sorry to break any followers hearts by stating the obvious but - it's a case of ask and you might get, exactly how Maxfield explained it in the second post.

[Kos]

Exactly what needed to be said, it almost seems that Kos margined this thead in the first page by basically writing (and reading through the lines) that if you don't own a Supercharged Turbo'd M3 with brand new paint on it's 100% metal work then it's not worthy.
.

wrong wrong wrong, i'm not comparing any car to my own build neil. complete fucking bollocks.

[Nelly]

Don't lie Kos - your head can be right up there at the best of times and when provoked - it pops out to say hello

[Kos]

Don't lie Kos - your head can be right up there at the best of times and when provoked - it pops out to say hello

and again bollocks,

i'm arrogant at time because i choose to be and can be. but i wont compare my car to any one elses. you cant compare my m3 to erels any way, they are f-king miles apart

[Ziggy]

Kos. Dave (like myself) gets nothing for helping out as a mod. All we do is tidy up, but calling is 'cleaners' wouldn't be very nice would it?! Please don't start with personal insults - people'll only get upset & what does that achieve? 'Banter' is one thing (& I'm sure most of the above is meant as just that!), but I think it's fairly clear to see where the mark is...

Can we all calm down please - this'll just end up locked otherwise...

[Nelly]

- you bite so easy Kos

[Kos]

Kos. Dave (like myself) gets nothing for helping out as a mod. All we do is tidy up, but calling is 'cleaners' wouldn't be very nice would it?! Please don't start with personal insults - people'll only get upset & what does that achieve? 'Banter' is one thing (& I'm sure most of the above is meant as just that!), but I think it's fairly clear to see where the mark is...

Can we all calm down please - this'll just end up locked otherwise...

on most other forums mods do act as "cleaners" whats said is nothing personal , just as its seen. you show me a persoanl insult ??

[Kos]

neil, in your opinon is erels car worth a feature in PBMW ??

[Ziggy]

on most other forums mods do act as "cleaners" whats said is nothing personal , just as its seen. you show me a persoanl insult ??

I'm not even sure if there was anything particular, and I'm certainly not reading back through all that to find out!

It is getting a little personal though (insults or not!), & I just felt that some people may well get upset if this carries on the way it's going - I'm sure that's not your intention & it benefits nobody! I think you've made your opinion fairly clear by now anyway, no?

[Nelly]

Like i said - you don't ask, you don't get - i think it is as in my opinion, it all comes down to enthusiasm + love for your E30 - bonus if you get to show it to the world via a magazine.

[blingsta]

neil, in your opinon is erels car worth a feature in PBMW ??

NO ITS NOT KOS...... end of matter mate !

[blingsta]

Can a mod please lock this now.... all has expressed enough opinions and matter now solve with thanks to everyone who replied...

[Ant]

Wow, what a rollercoaster thread.

re the original post, whether or not a car is feature material is up to the magazine staff, not public opinion, so in the case in point Erels car should and will be submintted to PBMW towers, the rest is outa anyones hands ( on here @ least )

Kos, you've been a little abrasive in posting some comments, but everyone is entitled to an opinion, yours is formed based on your experience and likes/dislikes as much as the next man/woman, and as such I'll respect what you've posted.

Re malcs M40T, it was an R+D exercise, and the costs and appearance reflect that fact, I would agreed the snail is too close to the HT leads, thats whay I supplied Malc with a 14mm spacer plate( at my cost) to rectify this shortcoming, as yet its not been fitted but I'm sure it will in due course, it hasn't caused any reliabilty issues that I've been made aware of.

Again with Erels car, given the budget the conversion is a good as could be, and as always I'll stand by the end result, my work ethic is simple, find out what the customer wants, then work out what they can justifiably afford, of course compromises have to be made, if the astetics are compromised then so be it, as long as the rest of the parts are up to the job @ hand, the cosmatecics can be addressed later.

with regard to comments made in ref to the mods on this very board, yup, its a thankless task, but in this case all involved have acted within the guidelines and the result is this thread has remained where it should be, on the forum, not the sin-bin.

I have no axe to grind with anyone here, certainly I have no ill feeling towards Kos, I would hope that sentiment is reciprocated his end, bottom line guys, if we all thought the same and did the same, this place would be FAR less interesting, so let the banter continue, but lets keep the handbags to PM's