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Post Sun May 13, 2007 10:38 pm

Seeing as I can quite happily get the back out with my standard M20B25, what do you lot with 200,250, 300 bhp do? Do you stick with standard wheels/tyres and drive like you're on ice or what wheel/tyre sizes do you fit on?
Do you bother increasing the size of the fronts?

Not that it really matters to me, but I'm curious :)
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Post Sun May 13, 2007 10:41 pm

hope and pray !!
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Post Sun May 13, 2007 10:41 pm

I grit my teeth a bit that helps. winkeye
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Post Sun May 13, 2007 10:44 pm

I hold on to the door very hard.

My dad does and holds on to steering wheel.

Was proper giving it some yesterday in the wet, some E90 driver looked at us in disgust :)
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Post Sun May 13, 2007 10:52 pm

Throttle control is the best solution to traction problems I think. If you have the touch of a rapist then you will probably struggle.
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Post Sun May 13, 2007 11:01 pm

Throttle control, and lots of sideways action! winkeye

Wet weather is a bit of a giggle, I have to be very careful (or not! :twisted: ) in first, second and third, and still a little careful in fourth sometimes!

It's not the quickest way to get around but it is a lot of fun! :D

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Post Mon May 14, 2007 12:21 am

To be honest, I don't have any problems with traction at all. Even in the wet it's easy to drive. You can obviously provoke it, but it's never done anything unexpected on me.

I find the smooth power delivery of the S50 helps as well. It's so linear that it tends not to break traction unless you really give it a boot full.

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Post Mon May 14, 2007 12:52 am

Hmmm, maybe I should get some better tyres! ? :? :D

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Post Mon May 14, 2007 8:24 am

Only unexpected thing I've had happen is the car suddenly snapping sideways in 3rd gear just as I got to about 65mph :o After that I learned not to be so heavy on the throttle in the wet!

It's fine in the dry though if you're careful :)

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Post Mon May 14, 2007 8:27 am

Theo325 wrote:Throttle control is the best solution to traction problems I think. If you have the touch of a rapist then you will probably struggle.
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Post Mon May 14, 2007 1:44 pm

but... surely this means that you're not getting any more acceleration out of corners than a standard car? I mean if the grip is the same between your car and mine, and we're both on the edge of traction then we must both be putting the same amount of power down, right?

OK, I realise that you'll be on the edge of traction in higher gears and higher speeds than me but down in first/second couldn't you do with some more rubber on the road?
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Post Mon May 14, 2007 1:51 pm

I think as long as you arn't a knob with the clutch anything up to 300bhp wouldn't have any issues on 215 wide tyres or less. A 300 bhp car doesn't have 300bhp at 2000 rpm you see... :wink:
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Post Mon May 14, 2007 1:54 pm

I just bought a heavier car! The E34 seems far better planted in the wet (particularly the back end) than my E30s ever did. :wink:
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Post Mon May 14, 2007 1:55 pm

ok. interesting. I can see that you could drive the car around the power quite happily and not slide around like a scandinavian rally driver. But it seems you guys are saying that standard wheels/tyre sizes are fine for when you're giving it welly too?
So, those 9 inch rears with big dishes are purely for show and wouldn't benefit if you had 300bhp?
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Post Mon May 14, 2007 1:58 pm

I think that the compound of the tyre needs to be considered rather than just the width. Something like a toyo r888 will provided a huge amount of added grip compared to out and out road tyres. Until it rains that is!
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Post Mon May 14, 2007 2:02 pm

9 inch wides will be going on mine, no bouncy suspension malarky, and careful control. decent rubber and youll be fine :)
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Post Tue May 15, 2007 12:04 am

i find that warming the tyres at the start of every trip helps winkeye

seriously though, throttle control and sensible gear choice can keep things totally safe - when you want them to be! my M30 conversion makes a very nice sedate daily driver when left in 4th most of the time :D with the heap of torque, you don't need to be screaming about all of the time.

decent tyres are an absolute must though. 215's are a sensible starting point
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