good idea for e30 cab electric windows

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DJ_B4L
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:27 am

i want to make a switch that i can fit in the centre console in place of
where the cut out switch goes

which can bring all four windows down with pressing one switch and all four back up by pressing and holding the same switch down till all windows are up

can this be done?

will be handy to have on a cab as i always take my windows down fully when lowering the softop and puting it up also will be quicker as its hard sometimes put all the windows up while driving
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:44 am

My e36 has exacrly that function and I'd never thought of it for my e30 before. If you find a way, let us know. It's a brilliant idea.
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:16 am

Sounds like a good idea!
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:57 am

will def let u guys know would be a nice little extra feature and handy too


think we need brian to answer this one
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:04 am

I think Brian did answer this one about a year ago :wink:
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:07 am

stu said this to me a while back but to be hones ti hav enever really looked into it, I may do now though winkeye
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:38 am

I have a box connected to my alarm that winds the front windows up when you arm the alarm. Think you can only run 2 windows on the unit I have. So you would need 2 units and some kind of trigger to them from the switch that will trigger them. Not too sure if you could do it to drop them.

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Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:48 pm

I was reading the manual the other day and noticed it states the rears have to go up before the fronts :?
What happend if you do it the other way round ?
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:24 pm

Martinaston wrote:I was reading the manual the other day and noticed it states the rears have to go up before the fronts :?
What happend if you do it the other way round ?
nothing really; BMW are just being Über-cautious, as the fronts overlap the rears, and it could all end in tears if the two bits of glass overlapped incorrectly :mad:
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:27 pm

It would be very useful. On my other convertible this function is integrated with the hood opening switch anyway and there's no reason why that couldn't be done by an electronics expert —a but for 15 year old car a simple but effective arrangement is probably better.

The four windows together must have quite a current drain because you can “hearâ€a them drop the voltage. That said it'd be simple enough to arrange with relays of the correct rating. I agree BMW are being uber-cautious in their instruction to raise the rears first. I haven't been that particular for 15 years and it's never done any damage.
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Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:15 pm

I dont bother raising or lowering the windows in a certain order...occasionaly they overlap but do not cause any damage. Haing a 'one touch' switch would make life a little easier - and surley not a big job? I've thought about it for a few years but have no electrical expertise.

Lets try and do this idea! I'd happily be the guniea pig!

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Thu May 03, 2007 1:16 am

any one got any ideas?
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Mon May 14, 2007 12:15 pm

Could just do this - (cut into the existing window cables)

f = front
r= rear

both using same live, but 2 fuses in a double throw, double pole switch - normally open switch.
Also this depends on the fact that the existing live feed to the switchs is based upon live to 'normally open switch' therefore when pressing the button down (closing the switch) power is passed to the motor - i dont a working multimeter to see if this is the case.

-(f)-->live > fuse > Switch > capacitors (time delay) {PCB board will need to be made really} >-ve feed to motor = clsoed window
-(r)-->live > fuse > Switch > -ve feed to motor = closed window.

If you want one-touch windows then all you'll need to do is to add another capacitor, to supply the feed for long enough (effectively creating a time delay circuit)
To get the windows to open you just change over the feed supply - i think?

So in turn 1 switch will close the windows, another will open them.
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Mon May 14, 2007 12:22 pm

orangecurry wrote:I think Brian did answer this one about a year ago :wink:
There was quite a bit of discussion about it. I'll leave you to find the link yourselves!
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