Suspension overhaul. I need to make some decisions.

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My 318iS is long overdue for suspension rebuild. I've messed around with suspension kits in the past. However, I have no real desire to lower this car any more than the standard MTech kit.

I asked at the local dealership and it was over £1K for MTech replacement parts!

I've been looking on the net tonight and for around £300, 400, 500 area there's loads of off the shelf lowering kits,.
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H&R Cup
Koni
Bilstein
Avo
etc

I've just been looking on Euro car parts and they list genuine MTech dampers for £100 fronts and £80 rear. So that'd be £360 on shocks and then I can source springs for around £70. So that's over £400 on standard parts. That's a lot of money, and I'm not in a spending mood really.

Otherwise I can just stick Boge dampers in for around £160.

Too many options. I don't need to lower or stiffen. I've been very entertained on knackered old shite, so new will be twice as good I reckon. I'm going to replace all bushes at the same time, so it'll be a new car once I've finished.

So, what are opinions on Boge dampers on std 318iS springs versus H&R vs Koni?
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:53 pm

H&R is my vote on bilsteins, will be a touch lower, but the ride quality will remain as standard and the limits are raised alot higher
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I went with Boge sport spec and a set of 35mm lower springs from GSF and very pleased with them, firmer yet still rides comfortably. No problems with sped bumps and they cost £311.39 for 4 springs, Boge sport shocks F&R and top mounts.

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Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:22 pm

Thanks for the info.
I'm going to do some buying this week. I've had a quick look round the internet via google. I'm prepared to spend £300-£450 on the springs+damper kit.

Best prices I've found so far from about 30 minutes of browsing are:
Koni SSK kit £332 at Autotint Design
Bilstein Streetline £207 at Europerformance
Bilstein B12 £460 at Europerformance

I'm looking into H&R cup kit prices. The zone shop page isn't working at the moment which is a pity. I've looked at the cached copy on Google and it looks like the cup kit is £350 at the zone shop.

What are opinions on the FK Hi Tec range? Europerformance have a kit on offer at £232.

I've also had a look at the Eurocarparts site.
Boge/Sachs dampers are £58 front & £32 rear, so £180 for all 4.
Bilstein dampers are £106 front & £80 rear, so £372 for all 4.
They sell Ventura springs for £27, so around £108 for springs, though I've no idea what Ventura are like.

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SHOCK STRUT GAS BQ FR LH/RH are £52 each and rears for £30. So £164 for a set of four. Any idea what BQ means?


I've just been looking in the Haynes manual and can find no reference to rear subframe bush replacement. Am I missing something?
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Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:56 pm

Zone Shop is down isnt it! Not good.

Do your research on the cheapest prices and exactly what you want then give us a call and we will beat the prices.
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What are opinons on the Bilstein B12 kits?
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:39 am

Very very good.

Bilstein Sprint B8 Dampers with Venturi springs sprung to bilsteins spec.

Probably one of the best all round packages available but also one of the most expensive (very good reason).
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:24 am

BQ at gsf means "best quality". Usually a standard part then a BQ part for mo money.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:22 am

I've put Koni adjustable shocks on the Touring and while I love them they are quite hard. The adjustments range from firm to 'so fookin hard the tyre sidewalls absorb the bumps', so probably not for you.

I like Eibach springs as they retain the m-tech ride quality.

I'd go for Eibach or H+R springs with Bilstein or Sachs/Boge gas shocks from GSF or ECP

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Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:37 pm

I was under the impression Ventura springs are used in the Bilstein sprint/streetline lowering kits, I guess they must be doing something right. I've just ordered a set for my cab, will be fitting this weekend.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:51 pm

I will repeat the advice that was given to me h+r cup kit new bushes and if you have any cash left h+r anti roll bars this is a step up from mtec in my opinion.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:38 pm

It's a 318iS though, so no H&R kit for it, from what I understand.
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:41 pm

I've got a full set of mtech shocks and springs only six months old on my car that is being scrapped if your interested. And yes, you are right about the cost new :cry:
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Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:11 pm

tom the 318iS used a 325i sport suspension setup so a cupkit fits straight on, but it looks like Cava has saved the day for you!
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Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:22 pm

The 325 will use different spring rates from the 318iS though.
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